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What Does ‘Mildly Islamist’ Mean?

December 28, 2012 12:20 pm 6 comments

Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The Economist, amongst many others, loves to refer to Recep Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey, and his Justice and Development Party, as “mildly Islamist”. He has steered Turkey to new levels of economic prosperity. He has completely overturned the Attaturk secular model of Turkish society and he has turned Turkey into an Islamic State. What I wonder does “mildly” anything mean? Is “mildly” a compliment or a condemnation of compromising mediocrity?

Let’s start with Erdogan. He has been trumpeted as a moderate, and yes, a mild Islamist. Once Turkey was the largest state of Muslims in which Jews could live comfortably and without harassment. Now it is a state where Ishak Alaton, one of its most prominent Jews, feels uncomfortable and unwanted, targeted by the endemic anti-Semitism that sadly has become a raging disease throughout the Muslim world and beyond. It is not just the Jews. While proclaiming his moderation, Erdogan continues to slaughter Kurds and deny them equal rights in Turkey today. Of course, he also refuses to acknowledge the massacre of Armenians, though he will get upset at Syria for its massacres. His selectivity and hypocrisy in regard to Israel is such that he encouraged a nongovernmental group of toughs to sail to Gaza against the wishes of the NATO he belongs to, because he wants to have his cake and eat it too. But he refuses to acknowledge any responsibility or blame for the fiasco that ensued. He demands apologies from everyone else, but seems incapable of apologizing for anything himself. Well, if this is mild you can keep it. Would they call Israel’s policies mild, I wonder?

What is mild then? Surely no one would call the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia mild. Or the Ayatollahs of Iran. Though we should recall that Khomeini was called “mild” at first too, because initially he tolerated the secularists, non-Muslim dress for women, and freedom of lifestyle choice. Only slowly, almost imperceptibly, did he hand over the core elements of industry and power to like-minded fundamentalists and then succeeded in imposing his fanaticism on everyone else. This, of course, is what will happen in Egypt now.

But in reality all of this is by the by. If Erdogan’s wife covers her hair, he and she are still described in Europe as mild. If a Jew’s wife covers her hair with a sheitel, would her husband or she be called mildly Jewish? I doubt it. Not even mildly Orthodox. But non-Muslim Europe is desperately trying to fool itself that there is such a phenomenon as mild Islam. This is what will flourish in Europe and as such it will be anodyne and undemanding and not affect the so-called Christian character of the European Union.

I actually recall telling a conference of Muslims and Jews in London thirty years ago that it would be a mistake for Muslims to follow the Jewish example. When religious Jews came to the UK in large numbers they tried very hard not to be conspicuous, not to make demands and not to assert themselves. As a result the level of ignorance and assimilation was catastrophic. If we have come back from that brink it is only because after 1967 Jews felt confident enough to assert themselves. My advice at the time was for Muslims NOT to be mild. Mildness rarely succeeds. The Muslim world is now rampant. But hold on. Isn’t that also true of the Jewish world?

You see, we are so used to the majority of Jews not being religious, that amongst Jews “mildly religious” means being more non-Jewish than Jewish. It means having Jewish components in one’s life but of relatively little practical significance, perhaps once or twice a year. That is enough to reassure ourselves that we are loyal to our religion, our culture, or our people. Such a position was the default position of Western Jewry. But no longer. The mildly Jewish world is fast disappearing. Either it is assimilating or it is becoming less mild.

We do not call Orthodoxy, in any of its manifestations, “mild.” We talk more about the degree of commitment. But in a world of commitment, it is the strong commitment we admire and which we believe will preserve the tradition rather than the mild sort. But wherever we look around the Orthodox world, we are seeing exactly what is happening in Islam. The only difference is we do not have a tradition of trying to impose it on others. It is bad enough that now, in too many communities, we try to impose it on other Jews.

This is where names and labels come into it. We used to have “Orthodox”. Then some added Modern Orthodox. To counter that came ultra-Orthodox. But ultra-Orthodox did not like the term and so they switched to Charedi, pious, trembling before God. It sounds purely descriptive. But it isn’t. Wahhabi or Salafi does not just describe a way of being religious, like mysticism or Sufism or Chasidism. It describes a state of mind, a state of offense, a state of expansionism, of triumphalism. This is what is happening in Judaism as much as Islam. At this moment we do not fully realize it because the numbers are still comfortably on the side of the non-religious, but it is changing.

As a caring Jew, I would completely welcome greater religious intensity and commitment, just as I would, as a citizen of whatever Western country, welcome more Muslims becoming more spiritual and better, more tolerant, less anti-Semitic human beings. But for this disease of imposition, this mark of the fanatic that seeks to impose his truths, his interpretations, his choices on everyone else. And the only way to avoid that in a modern state is to refuse to allow religion to interfere with the lives of ordinary citizens, not to allow specific alternative religious courts and social pressures to override civil law. Jew, Christian, Muslim, whatever religion, should be free to practice to whatever degree of intensity they desire. But let us not pretend it is mild. For the mild and the anodyne do not survive in the face of the dramatic onslaught of the Western values of excessive pleasure, indulgence, and egotism that reminds me in no small measure of the last days of the Roman Empire.

Let Erdogan fight for his vision of his state and Israel for hers, so long as they are both honest and fair. Whether it is religion or politics, I would rather we tell it as it is and use terms that honestly differentiate those for whom it is a personal expression of faith, loyalty, morality, and tolerance from those for whom it is an ideology to be imposed and forced onto others.

And whatever New Year you celebrate, may it be a good one!

6 Comments

  • Mildly Islamist is the same as “mildly pregnant” Erdogan is a Jew hater and its as simple as that.
    Turkey is a backward third world country – in the last 60 years their citizens have fled to Germany and Austria and to any other country that will have them to escape the poverty and backwordness in Turkey. Erdogan made a big mistake longterm with his anti Israel policies.

  • HI JEREMY,
    SOMETIMES I GET THE FEELING YOU SPEAK
    TOO MUCH TRUTH,ALTHOUGH PLEASE DON’T STOP.

    PERSONALLY I FEEL IT WOULD NOT BE A BAD THING
    IF WE WOULD BE IN THE LAST PHASE OF OUR CIVILIZATION.

    LET IT FAIL AND LETS START AGAIN,
    MAYBE WE WILL SUCCEED THIS TIME.

    A FINE ARTICLE.
    PIM.

    • Thank you Pim
      I guess those who hope the Messiah will come soon ( if he hasn’t already) is precisely to have a chance to start again!
      Jeremy

  • “Mildly islamist” is the same as “mildly Nazi”…It is an Orwellian perversion of language created to deny the pure facism of Islam. Erdogan wants to treat the Jews of Turkey the same way Muhammad treated the Jews of Quarayza. Only a “journalist” who aspires to be the next WALTER DURANTY would call Erdogan’s sociopathic aspirations “mild”…

  • Antoine Faisal

    What do you call Israel? a cosmopolitan country?

    there is nothing mild about Israel’s Jewish Identity. In fact, the motto seems to be “the more Jewish, the better”. that alone makes Israel the only racist AND fascist organism in the middle east.
    What about the other slogan “the only good Arab is a dead Arab”, pretty peaceful and human isn’t it?

    • Antoine
      It’s because of people like you there is no peace in the Middle East. I often criticize Israeli policies and I do not generalize about all Muslims. But you are so full of hated you assume all Jews are your enemies.

      Is there anything mild about all those Muslim leaders calling for Israel’s destruction? Is only Israel to blame and no one else? Who refused to accept a settlement in 1947, 1948 and 1967 ? Not Israel sand that was because the Arab States wanted to destroy it, not reach accommodation. So now having declared war time and time again you’re a sore loser?

      Ask yourself why there is a much bigger Peace Movement in little Israel than in all the Arab countries combined?
      And why cannot Israel be a Jewish State if all those Muslim States are avowedly Muslim and often prevent other religions from freedom of worship.

      Instead of trying to blame Israel for everything look at your own mess.
      Jeremy

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