Abbas: “I Challenge Anyone to Deny the Relationship Between Zionism and Nazism Before World War II”

January 21, 2013 9:30 am 19 comments

PA Chairman Abbas and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

During an interview to be aired Friday on Al Meyadeen, a Lebanon-based broadcast channel, Mahmoud Abbas has claimed that Zionism and Naziism were complicit prior to World War II.

“I challenge anyone to deny the relationship between Zionism and Nazism before World War II,” Abbas says in the interview, which has been teased ahead of time.

Anonymous pro-Israel blogger Elder of Ziyon, who first picked up on  the story, took issue with the assertion. “This is, of course, a sickening implication. There were contacts before World War II as Zionists tried to save Jews from Germany; for example, the Ha’avara Agreement. Abbas is however trying to spin it as if Zionists and Nazis were cooperating in genocide, which puts him beneath contempt.”

During the interview Abbas also claimed that Israel assassinated Yasser Arafat and was trying to do the same to  Saeb Erekat, chief negotiator for the PLO.

19 Comments

  • Remember there were also Algerian, Tunisian and Libyan Jews who also ended up in the death camps of eastern-Europe.
    Their Arab countrymen were only too glad to see them go, many of these north African Arabs with the exception of the Berbers collaborated with the German Army, as many of these Maghrebis although not all supported an Axis victory. The chief negotiator Saeb Erakat of the so called John Kerry Peace talks between Israel represented by Zippi Livni and martin Indyk the Ex-US Ambassador to Israel whom I don’t trust at all to be a true friend of even though he is Jewish. If Israel surrenders the Kotel to those bunch of Palestinian Gangsters, Israel will be committing political suicide. Jerusalem was and will always remain the undivided capital of the Jewish state of Israel.

  • Rabbi Rosenberg and his ‘interfaith’ efforts for peace — Winds …

    sheikyermami.com/2013/02/10/rabbi-rosenberg-and-his-interfaith-efforts-for-…

    3 days ago … Rabbi Bernhard Rosenberg has had enough of insolent behaviour by … be omitted during the area’s interfaith Holocaust commemoration, because, … Rosenberg is now calling for a boycott of the event he helped found, if the …

  • I have come to the conclusion that people like Rabbi Rosenberg threaten others because of the passion he brings to his message. My fantasy is that others would realize that his personal history is unique and while he functions as a rabbi in Edison, he also has worked for many years with the second generation community in the area, for no money, for no press, but because he identifed a need.

    No one who was directly affected by the Holocaust and has spent years coping with that legacy, for many of us are in our forties, fifties and sixties now, want to take away anything from the mainstream Jewish community in this area, whose parents are not survivors of the death camps, etc. We accept that for the most part people, Jews, really don’t care to hear our stories and the incredible insight that our parents’ experiences have had on shedding light on our own lives, to permit us to push through challenges that others might find too daunting.

    I think many of us 2-Gers watched our parents get up every day and function, and for me anyway, watching my mother walking to the farmers market with her basket every Saturday and then meeting me for lunch and filling my head with so many amazing stories, to take the bus home together, getting sick and laughing as we cosumed 2 pounds of beautiful sour cherries like there was no tomorrow. Those memories, just simple everyday connections where my mother was happy and engaged in life, Auschwitz number and all, filled me with a sense of awe and motivated me to go out in the world to try to make it a better place. And so many second generation individuals are just like me.

    We know on a spritual level that Hatikvah and our survivor parents and Israel go hand in hand. We feel it everyday it is part of our DNA in a way that relates to my mother’s entire nuclear and most of her extended family being brutally murdered just because they were Jewish and that is the state of affairs for the Israelis at this very moment. They know that they could be hit by a rocket or have their children bombed into littele pieces coming home from school and this is not a movie, this is how it is for the Jewish people who live in Israel every day. My mother would not let me go to Israel during high school. She beleived that I would fall in love with the country and maybe with a person and decide to make aliyah. She said she lost too many people and that she needed me to live here.

    The survivors and Israel and Hatikvah go together. That is a core belief in all of our families. The vast majority of the survivors went to Palestine and were there when Israel was made a state. My mother is one with Israel. Her only family to survive went to Palestine and Australia. And to this day, my mother says that there must be a G-d because after the Holocaust he gave me Israel. My mother and the other survivors need Israel, they needed Israel since the end of the Holocaust and the fact that they received in 1948 was the lifeblood that kept many survivors from committing suicide. When my mother attends Holocaust Memorial services with me and she hears Hatikvah she smiles, she cries very much with tears of joy, she looks proud, and she looks happy, and that makes me happy. So hopefully we can put Hatikvah back into all the Yom Hashoah services in the area. Because it is not about politics, these services are about the Holocaust which sadly is become lost withing the American Jewish community in its deep desire to fit in and not cause waves. Mirah

  • I AM CALLING FOR A NATIONAL BOYCOTT BY JEWS OF ANY INTERFAITH HOLOCAUST PROGRAM WHERE HATIKAVAH IS INTENTIONALLY EXLUDED DUE TO MUSLIM PRESSURE OR CLERGY WHO SUPPORT THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE. PLEASE GET THE WORD OUT. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG

    • RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG will not attend and boycott if Imam sits during hatikvah.

      Organizers to vote on restoring ‘Hatikva’ to interfaith program

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      Rabbi Bernhard Rosenberg says omitting the Israeli anthem from the Holocaust commemoration would be “giving in to the current atmosphere of anti-Semitism.”
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      Rabbi Bernhard Rosenberg says omitting the Israeli anthem from the Holocaust commemoration would be “giving in to the current atmosphere of anti-Semitism.”

  • The truth hurts.

  • . I recently bowed out of the interfaith Holocaust service, because it was a custom to include Hatikvah at the end, but now some Christian groups object as they support the Palestinians and the Muslim Imams would either sit or leave during the Hatikvah. Perhaps interfaith Holocaust programs no longer make sense, at least to me. I do not need the stress of seeing disrespect being afforded to Israel and nor do I wish to compromise by leaving Hatikvah out. The interfaith Holocaust memorials started as well intentioned way for the Jewish people and other groups to pause and reflect on man’s capacity to perpetuate unbelievable cruelty against his fellow and to commiserate as a group and others, with the Jews and hopefully prevent this nightmare from reoccurring. Over the years it was understandably modified to include other victims of genocidal mass killings, though these mass killings were not really analogous, as the Nazis were obsessed at not just killing Jews as a competing group, but Hitler desired to eliminate our creed and it’s pervasive influence on humanity, particularly Christian doxy. As a result of Muslim participation and twisted liberalism, this is morphing into a twisted canard where Israel is being blamed for perpetuating ethnic killings against the Palestinians as the Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis. One can understand the Islamo-Nazis belief system with a quote from the Talmud. We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG, CHILD OF Holocaust survivors and a refugee born in a D.P. camp.

  • Stop Abbas
    As the child of parents who survived the concentration camps, I have dedicated my academic career and my clerical calling to educate the next generation to learn the lessons of the Nazi horrors. The first lesson of the Holocaust is that the murder of six million Jews in 21 nations did not begin with an edict to cast the Jews into the ovens. It began with a policy of demonizing the Jews as if they were less than human. Throughout WWII, the exiled Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin Al Husseini, operated out of Hitler’s bunker and broadcast ranting in Arabic that called for the murder of the Jews. This daily radio message was beamed to the Middle East, while the Mufti actively recruited Arabs to join SS units that systematically rounded up and executed thousands of Jewish families in the Balkans.

    On Jan. 4, Mahmud Abbas, the leader of what the U.N. has defined as the State of Palestine, issued a speech in which he praised the legacy of the Mufti of Jerusalem and the Arabs who have murdered Jews over the past generation. To ignore Abbas’s message is ignore the first lesson of the Holocaust, which is that anyone who glorifies those who murder Jews is to be held culpable in the advocacy of mass murder.

    It is therefore incumbent on every person of conscience to condemn Abbas and to break off all relations with him and the entity that he represents. … There is an adage in the Talmud that states, silence is agreement.
    Rabbi Dr. Bernhard Rosenberg
    New Jersey

  • Abbas, who is a Nazi himself , is nevertheless telling a provable truth.My fellow Jews, we need to stop swimming in the Egyptian river DENILE[denial].Just go to the library and read “Perfidy” by Ben Hecht wherein he documents the duplicity of the secular Zionists who enabled and cooperated in the perpetration of the holocaust. Go to Monsey NY and speak with Nitra Rav Weissmandl who will show you actual documentation proving the so called Zionists sabotaged his father’s heroic efforts to save European Jewry.The Jewish Agency out of Switzerland wrote Rabbi Weissmandl stating “we must turn a deaf ear to the cries of Eastern Europe——with their blood we will get the land” Chaim Weizman stated in a 1937 Judea Magazine piece’The Jews of Europe must accept their fate—they are dust under the wheels of history” In Israel today, these same secular Zionists are throwing religious Zionists[our holy Judea and Samaria settlers]out of their homes. Go to youtube.com and watch the settlers of AMONA brutally beaten by secular Zionist forces.Jews denying the truth helps anti semites portray Jews as dishonest and dissembling about the Holocaust.The Jew was not chosen by the Almight to be an ostrich. Let us take our heads out of the sand,face the reality and say “never again”

    • Youre vile in your assertion. Do we as a people have any shame or decency? will you just say anything to get a rise and a response?

      I am thoroughly disgusted by you all.

      • Try exercising your intellect and stop emoting like a woman. Which one of my allegations of fact are not true?? Back up your answer with evidence and logic, not estrogen

  • Zionism and the Holocaust are two complementary things, neither of which could have come to fruition without the other. It is a historical fact that the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis and engineered the relationship from beginning to end.

    If you want to make a “new, democratic nation” based on freedom from religion, then it’s essential to wipe out every threat to that, and the biggest threat in the eyes of the Zionists was, and is, religious Jews.

    The Zionists systematically suppressed information on what was going on in the Nazi death camps so that the Germans could do their work more efficiently. The Zionists were happy to burn every last Jew and every shred of our Holy Torah they could. They also had many opportunities to ransom whole communities since the Germans like other evil people were just as happy pilfering and stealing as they are killing. Only the Zionists needed the killings to go on, because removing every last Jew was more important than money at that point.

    There is much documentation, and original sources are available thanks to the internet and to bury your head in the sand and deny that Zionism and the Holocaust were intimately bound together is dangerously naive. And it is a terrible disgrace to the memory of the millions of Jews and the Torah that was lost in the fires of this hell to not understand, or to misunderstand, the forces at work.

    The persecution of Torah Jewry did not end with the establishment of the Zionist State. In the early days families were torn apart and their children forced to abandon our faith in what could only be described as indoctrination camps. People are being denied jobs until this very day, simply for being Jews. The hate-mongering by the Zionists continues unabated. It’s an existential battle against 3,400 years of authentic Torah Judaism and Jewish survival by heretics who want to reduce Jewishness to a simple matter of nationality. But Am Yisroel (the People of Israel) is only a People by virtue of our common belief in the Torah of Moses Our Teacher and the Tradition we received on Mount Sinai.

    It is also a historical fact that for many hundreds of years Jews live in peace with our Arab neighbors. If you look at the timeline of Zionism and various events like “Rav” Kook’s declaration that the Western Wall belongs to the Jews during a major demonstration of 10,000 Zionists, it’s easy to understand what happened next. The Chevron massacre and other violence were new in their time, directly related to the land-grab by the Zionists. The Arabs were understandably alarmed and threatened at the uprising of these newcomers (the Zionists).

    Really, to understand this in perspective you need to understand that Zionism is a fundamentally heretical belief for a Jew. We are now (all of us Jews) in exile, because of our collective failure to uphold the Holy Torah. And there are numerous Biblical prohibitions of creating a state or attempting to end the Exile thru human means. God will end the Exile when He chooses. For men to attempt it brings terrible punishments like the Shoah. This is all written in our Holy Torah and is universally accepted Jewish belief amongst those who study Torah.

    There has been tremendous and unncecessary loss of Jewish and Arab life since the Zionists began their evil, heretical program, and the nations of the world have conflated Jews and Israelis and the hatred and anti-Semitism have not decreased, rather it has increased. There is too much to discuss here, but the main point people should be aware of is that Zionism is clearly prohibited by our Torah, Zionism is in direct opposition to Jewish faith and belief. And Zionism is the problem, not the solution.

    None of this changes the fact Abbas is a dangerous liar, but this is not unique to him, it applies to most politicians. Still, the point raised is extremely important. And as stated, it’s absolutely correct.

    • And now we have the Neturei Karta position that Zionism is not part of Judaism, and the next thing is that Eretz Yisrael belongs to the Arabs.

      Just because Ben Gurion and Weizmann made deals with Nazis and refused to help the Jews of Europe does not mean that Israel is not the beginning of the Redemption.

      There is more Torah being learned in Israel today than anywhere ever in history, and the country is going more and more toward its Jewish roots all the time.

      The only thing stopping the complete connection between Israelis and their heritage is that the people running Israel are still using the same concepts as Ben Gurion, who wanted a secular, socialist Israel to be a nation like the other nations, instead of being a Light Unto the Nations, as is our G-d given mission.

  • Unfortunately there was an agreement between the Nazis and those who were running pre-state Israel at the time, namely Ben-Gurion and his gang.

    Hasn’t anyone ever read Perfidy? Ben Gurion and crew (Kastner) sold out the Jews of Hungary in return for getting a few hundred of their buddies out of Auschwitz.

    The second government of Israel fell over this.

    On the other hand, it’s ironic that Abbas cries over Ben Gurion’s Nazi ties, whereas his mentor, Haj Amin Al Husseini was a known Nazi, was pictured with Hitler, raised 200,000 Bosnian Muslim SS troops, and was even rumored to be the one to convince Hitler to kill all the Jews instead of just deporting them.

  • Abbas is a true “ignoranus” – stupid AND an asshole, as well. Why does the Israeli Left treat him as a peace partner? As I recollect, he is now serving in the 7th year of his 4 year term.

  • Unfortunately the existence of the TRANSFER AGREEMENT prevented the success of the worldwide economic boycott of Nazi Germany in the spring and summer of 1933. Had the boycott been successful Nazi Germany would have ended in 1933.

  • The fangs come out …

  • Yoel Nitzarim

    At this time, the very day of President Obama’s Second Inauguration, I think that it is fitting to watch again and listen to his comments at the Buchenwald death camp :. Even the President of the United States does not know that Israel was not formed as a result of the Holocaust, that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since the time of King David, who conquered it from thr Jebusites and bought it from Araunah for some 50 shekels of silver, some 3,000 years ago, that modern-day Zionism truly began in the middle 1800s and became pronounced in the first and second moves (aliyahs) between 1882-1914 of Russian Jews and other East-European Jews to the area which is now Israel, but was then part of the Ottoman Empire. As for Mahmoud Abbas and Saeb Erekat, two Arab-Muslim conspirators against the Jewish State of Israel, their theories continue to poison any chance for peace between Israel and its immediate Arab and Muslim neighbors in what they now deem “Palestine,” but which most of the world still refers to as the Palestinian Authority.

  • He should be more concerned about the close relationship between Palestinian leader and Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini and Adolf HItler during the Holocaust (as well as Palestinian links with such charming personalities as Saddam Hussein, Joseph Stalin, in Laden, Zarqawi, Ceaucescu, Idi Amin, Nasrallah, Chavez, Khomeini, Ahmadinejad, etc.).

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