Poll: 80% of Israelis Doubt Talks With PA Will Bring Peace, 73% Oppose Jordan Valley Retreat

January 10, 2014 10:21 am 8 comments

The issue of Israeli daily Ma'ariv reporting on a new poll on Israel-PA talks.

A poll conducted by Israeli daily Ma’ariv and published on Friday reveals that 80% of the Israeli public does not believe that the ongoing negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority will lead to the signing of a peace agreement.

In stark contrast, a mere 9% of those surveyed believe that peace will come out of the talks, Ma’ariv reports.

Among other revealing results of the poll: 73% are not willing to have the IDF retreat from the Jordan Valley as part of any agreement; 34% of respondents said that they would oppose an agreement that is based on the evacuation of large blocs of Jewish communities located in the West Bank (Judea and Samaria), land swaps, PA recognition of Israel as a Jewish state and a gradual withdrawal from the Jordan Valley – with an identical percentage of people supporting such conditions.

What’s especially disturbing about the debate over a continued IDF presence in the Jordan Valley is that this is considered one of the easier issues that need to be resolved before a framework agreement between the PA and Israel is ironed out, Ma’ariv said.

As the Palestinian Authority has summarily rejected the idea of any IDF presence in a future Palestinian state, The United States – led by Secretary of State John Kerry – has proposed the stationing of American troops in the disputed region. Based on the poll, a majority of Israelis support the stance taken by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has come out forcefully against any foreign entity putting boots on the ground in the JordanValley.

According to Ma’ariv, the results of the survey indicate that the Israeli public is tired, disappointed and skeptical after years of seeing dozens of American mediators visit Israel, only to leave the region empty-handed. Furthermore, the fact that the far-reaching proposals of two Israeli prime ministers have been rejected by the Palestinian Authority has convinced many Israelis that an outbreak of peace is not in the offing.

Regarding the framework agreement talks that are scheduled to end in April, the findings of the survey show above all that an overwhelming majority of Israelis believe that the negotiations between Jerusalem and Ramallah are not progressing and are bound to encounter serious obstacles in the near future, Ma’ariv reports.

8 Comments

  • It’s pointless to talk about ”peace” – anyone even talking about ”peace” is either delusional, a liar, or ill-intentioned. Calling this a ”peace process” is straight out of Orwell. No matter what we do, there will be no peace. And the worst possible outcome would be a failed terrorist Arab state in Judea & Samaria.

  • USA & the world would like to whittle away Israeli borders & defences. They act & speak like Britain & France giving in to Germany. Their guarantees like the USA guarantees were worthless, did not prevent war.
    The Philistine never once mentioned peace with Israel and every opportunity they have the demonise & threaten destruction. Israel should stand firm as the ” best “of friends could prove treacherous.

  • It is a ludicrous proposition that Israel can carry on controlling the lives of Palestinians. Bibi must of come to that realisation that time is up, yet many still refuse to open their eyes. The elixir of strategic depth still has the power to intoxicate. Never mind that it is just plain toxic.

    For Israel, staying put or pulling out comes with big risks. The question which is the greatest risk for the future. Some want unhindered access to the boulders of the Bible. They believe that Israel is a Jewish state and therefore Jewish law should apply. Jewish law extracts provenance from God and therefore it is de facto Gods law. Bibi says Abbas should recognise Israel as a Jewish state, but Egypt and Jordan did not have to sign up to that.

    The west bank party is over the music has stopped but I will let you into a secret there is a much better party going down the road on the beach and that one is really rocking. Israel is a recognised power house in science, technology, innovation and entrepreneurship. Where the Jewish spirit is free it will rise to the top and prosper. History is witness to that. That is our strength, that is our future. These are not empty words. The young generation in Israel are making it happen in a way that it didn’t happen before for them and for real reasons, which is essentially that the size of the state is receding. State monopolies are going or gone and access to opportunity is growing.

    Self empowerment not self entitlement it is the key to the future. In that spirit I say what we need for ourselves we have be willing to give to others.

  • What is not taken into consideration is that the PA has also made an offer, an offer that has been rejected previously and is found in the Oslo Accords which was essentially signed by the USA on behalf of Israel, it would seem, since Israel has always presented 14 reservations on the Accord. Evidently the nation-state concept is found to be inadequate to the task of co-existence in the entire Land. This would be the definition of a Federation between Nations who co-inhabit the entire territory. Much like the Jewish Bundist concept. I understand that there is even a movement in Israel and Palestine called Federation Israel-Palestine. I am myself in Montréal where the new nation-being built by the nationalist government is imbedding religious discrimination into the constitutional Charter.

  • The Palestinians are completely screwed without Israel. And the protection of Israel.

    But Israel needs the Palestinians. They are doing work that the Israelis do not want to do. It is a symbiosis. Why break it when both will benefit from it.

    • James Crozier

      A couple of things.
      The Palestinians were vassals to reactionary forces from Egypt till long after the Ottomans fell. These criminals found they could function by coming along once or twice a year a take profits, animals, and maybe rape or steal a daughter or two. Tribal reality for the Palestinians was complete domination from the outside.
      Then Israel comes along and has to face the fact of such unsettling violence and anger from its neighbors.
      The unfortunate reality for them is some want modernity and peace…. and economic wealth and security. But the zealots are holding the whole region back. They steal the wealth honest Palestinians make. And kill innocent people with it.
      Even so to force honest people into menial work to get a little cash when like any group of people they aspire to economic freedom would be counter productive. By helping good people to really prosper you could help role models develop to provide health alternatives to Hamas and their ilk.
      The reason Arab neighbors have been so successful in recruiting and funding terrorism in the P.A. is because in part to the deep poverty.
      This is one of the issues, like water, that can not be ignored.

  • nelson marans

    When there are Palestinian Arabs that really want peace and cease their anti-Israel propaganda, then there will be an opportunity for an agreement. However with the constant flow of anti-Jewish tirades emanating from the Palestinian territories and the continuing support of terrorism, peace will not occur in this or the next generation while Israel continues to get stronger economically while the Palestinian territories without massive infusion of funds will weaken.

    • Luigi Rosolin

      Nelson you are right. Palestinians are Muslim mostly and such cult is supported by enormous $ from countries like Saudi Arabia. The Muslim cult is ideologically against any other form of religion or society. They are using any form including lies with treating that will be not honor. Muslim doctrine is base of complete supremacy and is not compromising. Israel are the first target as they are for Muslim in their consider territory of dominion. Any concession given will be only, if successful only momentousness for peace. The only way to stop their goal is total control over them with elimination of the cult.Religion change.

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