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Saudi Official Says Hamas Responsible for Deaths in Gaza; Columnist Calls for Peace With Israel

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King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz of Saudi Arabia. Photo: Wiki Commons.

The former head of Saudi intelligence services Turki al Faisal said that Hamas was responsible for “the crimes Israel has committed in the Gaza Strip,” according to a report by Israeli news website NRG.

In an interview quoted Sunday from Asharq Al-Awsat, a pan-Arab newspaper based in London, Faisal said that “Hamas is responsible for the slaughter in the Gaza Strip following its bad decisions in the past, and the haughtiness it shows by firing useless rockets at Israel, which contribute nothing to the Palestinian interest. The Hamas rockets pose no threat to the Israeli occupation, even when they reach Tel Aviv.”

Faisal further blamed Qatar and Turkey for their mediation efforts, saying that instead of preventing Israel from destroying Gaza, these two countries were destroying Egypt’s leadership role in the Arab world. He also attacked the US and Europe for giving Israel the diplomatic credit to continue its campaign.

Earlier over the weekend, an influential Saudi wrote an op ed published by Al Arabiya headlined “Peace with Israel is the solution.”

The author, Mohammed al Sheikh, comes from a family which traces its roots back to the Wahabbi founders of the kingdom. Members of the family were imams, muftis and ministers in the Saudi government.

In his article, cited by Israeli news site Ynet, Sheikh said only peace will gain the Palestinians a state, since at war Israel has total advantage.

Sheikh further mocks Iran’s threats since 1979 to erase “the little devil” and “the Shi’ite of Lebanon” Hassan Nasrallah, who sent his Hezbollah troops to fight the Syrian people instead of Israel. The Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas “sacrificed the Palestinians in false hopes of liberation.”

Several weeks ago, a Saudi intellectual, Abdallah Hamid a Din, wrote in Al Hayat that Israel cannot be forcefully defeated. In his words, the Palestinians have been missing opportunities since 1947, and all the while Israel grows stronger while the Palestinians weaken and their territory shrinks. Hamid said many of the Palestinians’ demands were unrealistic, like the right of return for refugees, which he compared to an Indian demand to return native Americans to cities in the US.

According to Dr. Yaron Friedman, the author of the Ynet article, Saudi Arabia feels threatened by the rise of Iran and the Shi’ite axis, and the calls from within it for peace with Israel come on the heels of Israel’s other peace agreements with Jordan and Egypt and its normalization with Morocco and Mauritania, all moderate Sunni states.

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  • hamas cannot disguise the fact that its power base is solely directed against Israel. Not to Feed Gazans. Not to Nurture Gazans. Not to House even those Gazans whose Homes Israel has been forced to demolish! But hamas will have a state rebuilt by the West and Israel will constantly look over its shoulder!

  • first time comment served by KSA is highly diplomatic like a referee.This expertise and white collar attitude at present not required at all ,first of all stop the war and immediate help to the sufferers and then negotiation can take place. Belated comment is given by KSA and not useful for the matter. This is funny statement that Hamas is responsible by making them shield . No my dear Minister when small time ceasefire was there and ladies and children were purchasing fruits and vegetables ,Israel has thrown 3 rockets and all ladies and children died there itself see VDO. Second case Israel has arrested many children and they were thrown in a ditch and covered with sand by shovel very slowly and slowly,can you imagine how there breaths with pain and agony taking place up to last breath.Shame on every body dancing under the big influence of this world. When this is the peak time of Israel’s cruelty and brutality we are talking the matter of Shiat and Sunny for es tabling their governance shame full for both. Even no body cried or spoke to leave at least political,psychological effect on Israel.The autonomy of Islamic states the brotherhood of Muslim has vanished totally.ALLAH KHAIR……ALLAH KHAIR….RAHAM ALLAH.

  • Ibrahim

    Hamas is executing children in gaza, after they refuse being a human shield.
    hamas is a terror organization and Israel has the right for self defense.

    • Showlaq

      Un believable, and IDF dog, had to take an Arab name to legitimise his crap loool “Israel has the right to self defence”. You filthy IDF dogs have no boundaries, you could reach unlimited filthiness, and yet pass beyond loool…

  • Steve

    Few realize the Greeks recorded Jewish history and in so portrayed them as a warlike uncivilized and arrogant people.
    Read the Torah/Pentateuch and you will understand that.

    gold trinkets, preaching genocide, trumpeting horns with a “holy” ark of the covenant and then being crushed in battle.

    Where are these artifacts, what archaeological treasures even prove of their ancient existence? Why don’t they take some responsibility for their long history of “persecution”. Usually where there is smoke there is fire. See arendar system

  • Linda Golden

    Julien ,

    Your rant would be laughable, if it was not so pathetic. How PREDICTABLE that you would Blame the Jews themselves for the vile, Jew hatred that Christianity and Islam has has projected throughout the centuries. For whatever reason, genetic superiority , biblical teachings, …the Jews are still here. I loved your bringing the United Nations into it…an organization that has China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia etc. sitting on human rights committee’s. You are right about one thing, the post-holocaust period is over. Anti-semitism which has been a no no since the war, morphed into anti-Zionism, now it is perferctly acceptable to be an anti-semite again. Groundhog Day over and over again.

    • Anthony

      The UN view of the Palestinian Territories can be seen at
      the following URL:
      * The West Bank and East Jerusalem is occupied Palestine (bilaterally recognised by 133 nations in the world including India, China, Russia, Brazil, Malaysia, Indonesia, Guatemala, Thailand and Iceland). This number has increased since 2013.
      * Palestine is officially a non-member State and recognised by the UN. 138 nations supported Palestine in November 2012 in its successful bid for statehood. France, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Greece, Cyprus and Malta were among many European nations to support Palestine. Their vote for Palestine was important as were those cast by India, China, Russia, Brazil, Japan, Mexico and New Zealand who supported Palestine too. The Secretary General of the UN and Vatican Church wel-comed the re-birth of Palestine.
      * However, Palestine (West Bank and East Jerusalem) is still illegally held and sadly Israel’s Prime Minister Mr Netanyahu has ignored the ruling of the International Court of Justice (subsequently supported by the UN and EU) with respect to the “separation barrier”. This “wall” is 3 times the length of the Berlin Wall.
      * UNESCO’s recognition of Palestine in 2011 was supported by France, Spain, Ire-land, Belgium, Norway, Greece and other European nations.
      * Please also see UNSC Resolution 478 concerning Jerusalem. The 4th Geneva Convention is applicable to all the Palestinian Territories.
      * International law and UN Resolutions (over which there are over 150) are ignored by Israel’s Prime Minister and Foreign Minister.
      * UN Resolutions specify Israel’s illegal hold of the Palestinian Territories to be a vio-lation of the 4th Geneva Convention and as such is a War Crime under international law. More so now, that settlements are being placed in another nation.
      *** UN Security Council Resolution 478 (1980) of 20 August
      1980 – BINDING
      The Security Council, recalling its resolution 476 (1980);
      reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible;
      deeply concerned over the enactment of a “basic law” in the Israeli
      Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the Holy City of
      Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security; noting that Israel has
      not complied with resolution 476 (1980); reaffirming its determination to
      examine practical ways and means, in accordance with the relevant provisions of
      the Charter of the United Nations, to secure the full implementation of its
      resolution 476 (1980), in the event of non-compliance by Israel ; Censures in
      the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the “basic law” on
      Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

      *** Resolution 694 (1991) – BINDING
      Adopted by the Security Council at its 2989th meeting on 24
      May 1991
      The Security Council,
      Reaffirming its resolution 681 (1990),
      Having learned with deep concern and consternation that Israel has, in violation of its obliga-tions under the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, and acting in opposition to relevant Security Council resolutions, and to the detriment of efforts to achieve a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, deported four Palestinian civilians on 18 May 1991,
      1. Declares that the action of the Israeli authorities of deporting four Palestinians on 18 May is in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, which is applicable to all the Palestinian territories
      occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;
      2. Deplores this action and reiterates that Israel, the occupying Power, refrain from deporting any Palestinian civilian from the occupied territories and ensure the save and immediate re-turn of all those
      3. Decides to keep the situation under review.

      *** Resolution 672 (1990) – BINDING
      Adopted by the Security Council at its 2948th meeting on 12 October 1990
      The Security Council,
      Recalling its resolutions 476 (1980) and 478 (1980),
      Reaffirming that a just and lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict must be based on its resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) through an active negotiating process which takes into account the right
      to security for all States in the region, including Israel, as well as the legitimate political rights of the Palestinian people,
      Taking into consideration the statement of the Secretary-General relative to the purpose of the mission he is sending to the region and conveyed to the Council by the President on 12 October 1990,
      1. Expresses alarm at the violence which took place on 8 October at the Al Haram al Shareef and other Holy Places of Jerusalem resulting in over twenty Palestinian deaths and to the in-jury of more than one hundred and fifty people, including Palestinian civilians and innocent worshippers;
      2. Condemns especially the acts of violence committed by the Israeli security forces resulting in injuries and loss of human life;
      3. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention, which is applicable to all the territories occupied by
      Israel since 1967;
      4. Requests, in connection with the decision of the Secretary-General to send a mission to the region, which the Council welcomes, that he submit a report to it before the end of October 1990 containing his
      findings and conclusions and that he use as appropriate all the resources of the United Na-tions in the region in carrying out the mission.
      24th April 2012 – UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said:
      “I strongly condemn the Israeli government’s decision yesterday to turn three illegal outposts in the West Bank into settlements. I urged the Israeli government in my statement on 5 April to remove – not
      legalise – outposts across the West Bank”.
      Furthermore, I would like to refer you to specific serious concerns raised by the International Court of Justice (2004) – with relevance to the ‘security barrier’ – which was viewed with alarm by the international community. Incidentally the reference to the illegality of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem was also reinforced when the International Court of Justice also found the following (indeed the EU supported the UN vote pertaining to the ‘security barrier’):
      * That the separation barrier is intended to assist the settlements, the establishment of which violates Article 49 of the Convention. Also, the court pointed out that the restrictions placed on the local population located between the barrier and the Green Line are liable to lead to abandonment of the land, which also constitutes a violation of Article 49. In addition, the opinion stated that taking control of private land to build the barrier injured private property owners, and thus violated Articles 46 and 52 of the Hague Regulations of 1907 and of Article 53 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

      Some other key UN Security Council Resolutions on Palestine – BINDING AND INTERNATIONAL LAW (there are over 150 UN Resolutions)
      252 (21 May 1968)

      Urgently calls upon Government of Israel to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon.

      262 (31 December 1968)

      Calls upon Government of Israel to pay compensation to Lebanon for the destruction of airliners at Beirut International Airport.

      267 (3 July 1969)

      Expects Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

      271 (15 September 1969)

      Expects the demand that Government of Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

      298 (25 September 1971)

      Expects the demand that Government of Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

      446 (22 March 1979)

      Calls on Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the Palestinian Territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

      452 (20 July 1979)

      Expects Israel cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the Palestinian Territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

      465 (1 March 1980)

      Expects Israel cease, the establishment, construction, and planning of illegal settlements in the Palestinian Territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

      471 (5 June 1980)

      Demands prosecution of those involved in the assassination attempt of West Bank leaders and compensation for damages; Expects demands to comply by Fourth Geneva Convention.

      484 (19 December 1980)

      Expects Israeli compliance with the Fourth Geneva Convention.

      573 (4 October 1985)

      Condemns the Government of Israeli with respect to the attack in Tunisia. Call on Israel to pay compensation for human and material losses from its attack and to refrain from all such attacks or threats of attacks against other nations.

      592 (8 December 1986)

      Demands Israel comply with the Fourth Geneva Conventions in all Occupied Palestinian Territories including East Jerusalem.

      605 (22 December 1987)

      Calls upon the Government of Israel, the Occupying Power, to comply by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

      607 (5 January 1988)

      Expects Israel to comply with the Fourth Geneva Convention as well as cease its practice of deportations from the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

      608 (14 January 1988), 636 (6 July 1989), 641 (30 August 1989)

      Expects that Israel cease the deportations of Palestinian people from the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

      672 (12 October 1990)

      Expects Israel to comply by the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

      673 (24 October 1990)

      Demands that the Israel come into compliance with UN Resolution 672.

      681 (20 December 1990)

      Expects Israel to comply with the Fourth Geneva Convention with respect to the Occupied Palestinian Territories including East Jerusalem.

      694 (24 May 1991)

      Expects that Israel stop Palestinian civilian deportation from the Occupied Palestinian Territories and ensure the safe and immediate return of deportees.

      726 (6 January 1992)

      Expects Israel to comply with the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention and to cease its deportation practice from Occupied Palestinian Territories.

      799 (18 December 1992)

      Reaffirms Fourth Geneva Convention to all Palestinian Territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Also affirms that deportation of civilians constitutes a contravention of its obligations under the Convention.

      904 (18 March 1994)

      Israel is called upon, as the occupying power, to take and implement measures, inter alia, confiscation of arms, with the aim of preventing illegal acts of violence by settlers.

      1073 (28 September 1996)

      Calls on the safety and security of Palestinian civilians to be ensured.

      1322 (7 October 2000)

      Calls upon Israel to comply with the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of the occupying power in the Palestinian Territories.

      1402 (30 March 2002)

      Calls for Israel to withdraw from Palestinian cities.

      1403 (4 April 2002)

      Demands that the Government of Israel go through with the implementation of UNSC Resolution 1402.

      1405 (19 April 2002)

      UN inspector call to investigate civilian deaths during Israel’s assault on the Palestinian Jenin refugee camp.

      1435 (24 September 2002)

      Calls on Israel to withdraw to positions of September 2000 and end its military activities in and around Ramallah, including the destruction of security and civilian infrastructure.

      • Yisrael

        What point are you making by posting so much pulp?

  • isa

    egypt, jordan, uae, saudi arabia, morrocco and turkey are all of them called MUNAFIQQUN which means the real and biggest enermy of ISLAM.

    • atef bassas

      when u say this word Munafeqeen,I hope you do understand the meaning of it,because at least these countries you listed above are saying the trouth and not saying something and do something else and that is the exact meaning of the Munafeqeen,those countries that are calling them selves almomanah or almogawamah has done nothing against Israel or to fight Israel except by giving words and faked acts but under the table they are dealing with Israel on the highest level and alot of the evidence are available to prove their intimate releations with Israel,so cut the crab and let us name things by its real names.

  • JIm

    Until the swinging sixties in England, religious instruction was an integral part of the English Protestant high school system. After which religious teaching was discouraged.
    We were taught that the Jewish people were the chosen ones of God. Whenever they got into dire straits a hero would turn up, such as Moses, and with God’s guidance they would prevail. This had been happening since Adam was evicted from the Garden of Eden. Whether these biblical stories are true or not, they show that the Jews have been around longer than any race on earth. It seems to have been forgotten that throughout history, efforts have been made to eradicate or ostracise them, wherever they have lived. The only time they have started a war since biblical times, was against the British, when they were trying to create their own state. Having survived for thousand of years, it is unthinkable that God will let them be overcome.

    • rhonda welsch

      Amen- Shalom!
      I am copying and sharing…Thank You!

    • Daniel Zev Ben Avraham

      One suggested edit to Jim’s comment would be the Jews have survived for much longer than 1000 years. It is just a matter of when you wish to begin counting. It has been over 3300 years since the giving of the Torah at Mt Sinai, and even longer if you wish to begin counting earlier. So whether you date from Abraham, or Jacob, or the Moses/Exodus, your time line date well over 1312 BCE or longer.

      • Joseph Australia

        Also another helpful edit would be

        ‘To this date and for the last 3,300 years, God destroyed every single person, country, nations and even civilizations, that contemplated destroying the Children of Israel, keeping the Israelites safe.

        Civilizations included the Pharonic Egypt, the Romans, Babylonians, the deaths of Hitler and his Nazi Germany, Kadaffi and his Libya, Saddam Hussein and his Iraq.

        Jewish hating countries on the failed and disintegrating state level include Syria, Iraq,Yemen,Pakistan, Lebanon and Libya.

        20 years ago, most European economies were larger than China. On the lure for the nefarious oil moneys, the European Union became a haters of the Jew, while China did not. God has lifted up China, making it as big as the European Union, and rising, while the Jewish God hating European Union is facing existential financial and cultural decline.

    • lisa

      Jews are not a race. Just sayin’

      • Roman

        Define “race”.

      • Yisrael

        Light skinned, dark skinned, Asian, or European, they have identical beliefs cultural memory and above 90% similarities in DNA. They’re an ethnicity.

    • Roman

      So is that why the British trained, armed, and manipulated Arabs between WW1 and WW2 to terrorise Jewish immigrants into Transjordan? Or the promises broken to Jews in England for their support in the war? Or the crimes of doing everything possible from preventing Jews from escaping Nazi holocaust and fleeing to the Levant?

      Face it. England, Germany and Italy created this mess. One out of greed and colonial practice. The other two for sheer hatred. And now, NOW Europe has the audacity to tell Israel and the rest of the world how to behave?

    • Bran Van Zip

      I believe that these facts have not been forgotten, just ignored in an effort to marginalize Jews.

    • Kevin goodwin

      This type of childish thinking is what causes stupidity like this in the world. Until mankind gets over this stupid god business, people will continue to kill each other in the name of it and believe they have answers that are clearly the ramblings of iron age goatherders.

      Humankind needs to grow up and imagine the world without gods- which is exactly how we find ourselves when you actually look at it objectively.

    • Jim, what some people do not realize is that The Catholic Church is the New Israel with whom God has established “The New and Everlasting Covenant” through His Son Jesus The Christ.
      This Covenant will Never be broken.

    • Showlaq

      lool What a loads of crap!!! Jew’s were the only group on earth that have literally murdered and disobeyed Gods prophets.. Not to mention they are the very group the Antichrist descends from!! Seeing what’s happening now in the world, I think I believe that 100%… enough to see the 666 sign of Israel and the one eyed beast running loos all the way from Hollywood.. So yeeehhh Jews existed and Ishmaelite’s happen to exit too until now.. Starting from Adam him self to Noah all the way down!! Even the chines are alive lol so noo its not a triumph really!!

      • Yisrael

        SOME of the prophets were killed. All of the prophets were Jews. So it is not, nor has it been, any of your business at all.

  • Charles M

    I guess that’s what you call a backhanded compliment. Israel has “committed a crime” by defending herself, BUT its Hamas’s fault (at least he got that part right).
    Seeing as he and his family have been paying “hush money” to terrorist Islamic groups in his kingdom for years to keep their monarchy intact…….. Remember ALL 19 terrorists that participated in the 9/11 tragedy were SAUDI! And who did we go after to punish them……IRAQ!?!?

  • Valery

    interesting opinion. Saudi initiative for a peace treaty has long been known. Israel, however, refused to accept it. Hamas behaves recklessly abandoning the armistice, it is true, but the Arab countries have done little to extinguish the conflict and to help the people of Palestine in the lifting of the blockade. Egypt closed the border crossings only … UN calls for end to violence … International mediators busy chatter one … No one is able to offer a real prospect of war

  • Emanuel

    I am with Saudi, UAE, Egypt, Israel alliance, they are humanitarian and making more progress than the US which is moving backward. These are good Muslim leaderships unlike the tyrants in US, Turkey, Qatar who just love terrorists. US is making a huge mistake trying to undercut Egypt in fact it’s delusional.

  • art

    who would have ever thought that the Saudis’ would have stated the truth while the President and Sec State of the US refuse to see it. Can anyone with an iota of intelligence not see that Obama/Kerry are anti Israel They were silent when hamas launched missiles against Israel, refused to even threaten to cut back aid to pa/hamas and now want to save hamas

    • Lynne T

      Turki Al Faisal, if I remember correctly, also said Arafat was a fool to walk away from Ahud Barak’s offer in 2002 or whenever Barak was PM, negotiating with Clinton’s assistance.

  • Hamas charter and Fattah charter is based on the elimination of Israel.
    When you tech your children since infancy to kill and destroy Israelis-Jews and indiscriminately kill anybody standing in their way. No peace or co-existence can ever be. These are the same people with the same mentality who brought down the World Trade Center in New York that killed 3,000 Americans.
    Unless I see an extended period of time with a change of attitude towards non-Muslims and their non-violence treatment, I fear that there is no choice but to treat them as the enemy that they are.
    A true peace in Israel with its Arab neighbors will bring true economic prosperity and a higher standard of living, but at this point it seems only a dream.

    It is imperative that all nations who care about their people life liberty and pursuit of happiness organize together to fight and eliminate terrorists and their organization or we are doomed.

    • Tomm

      You have forgotten Religious Freedom and the Rights of Women, these must be included in any charter that Israel considers and only consider during peacetime.
      Education must not continue to be in the hands of those who worship violence.

      • zvi

        What is this have to do with Israel? You must mean Saudi Arabia!

    • Mickey Oberman

      “It is imperative that all nations who care about their people life liberty and pursuit of happiness organize together to fight and eliminate terrorists and their organization or we are doomed.”

      YJ, you are 100% correct. But like the Muslims they would rather see dead Jews than save their own countries from their fast approaching and inevitable doom at the hands of their Muslim populations.

      Mickey Oberman

    • Julian Clovelley

      I entirely agree with what YJ Draiman says. but the real tragedy is that the other side could with equal reason throw a similar jibe. Try this for example, all I have done is reuse the framework from the alternative viewpoint and work on from there:-

      “When you teach your children since infancy that they are members of a group with a unique genetic heritage genetically uniquely passed down from the supposedly “chosen people” of the Bible…

      When you teach them that their sacred scriptures are their real history. When you teach them that they and only they have a right to live on that land, to own that land, to nurture and farm that land…

      When you teach them that no other group is of equal descent, equally beloved of G-d, has an equal emotional tie to the same land, and an equal stake in its future… When you even teach them the arrogant notion that even when there is no obvious genealogical link at all, and that they are quite obviously descended from converts and intermarriage, their “chosen people” status still magically applies…

      When you teach those children that they, as members of a modern nation, have more in common with people thousands of miles away than with their neighbours, that somehow even the commandment to not covet your neighbour’s house has no meaning outside their supposed ethnic group, thereby even devaluing scripture itself…

      When you teach them that to invade neighbouring lands through Settlement construction, to displace their immediate neighbours through use of foreign money, to permanently occupy land which is not yours because of a counterfeit genetic claim that the rest of the world dismisses as religious nonsense…

      When you teach your children a state can only have one dominant religion, one dominant culture, and one dominant “race” – when you even teach them there is such a thing as “race” or “a people” – chosen or otherwise…

      When you teach them Democracy can exist where a labelled indigenous minority does not have equal rights, cannot convert, and should not intermarry…

      All this and more – Then I think no peace and coexistence can ever be. Unless I see an extended period of time with a change of attitude towards people of other religions including muslims, and their treatment as fellow countrymen on an equal basis, that accepts and caters for their sensibilities and emotions and dreams, then I fear there is no choice on the part of those other people. who have been effectively defamed as social and spiritual inferiors, than to treat you as the domineering caste you have chosen yourself to be, and seek to overthrow you, supposing you will never change. One can understand why they do not see you as chosen by G-d but rather as their tormentors, self-selected as superiors by yourselves

      A true peace in Israel’s region is the key to mutual economic prosperity, a higher standard of living, especially for the dispossessed and disadvantaged. There are so many of those on both sides

      It is imperative that all nations who care about the worlds people organise together to make Israel understand that Statehood has responsibilities to all the people of the land they are situated in, the land that, not G-d, but the United Nations offered to them, not as an Apartheid State, but as a homeland for a tortured and traumatised people. It is imperative that these same nations politely reject the Zionist worldview as a product of modern nationalist ideological distortion of history and reality, that cannot be respected internationally as the nation’s core. It is imperative they be sympathetic in this as well as firm, understanding that Zionism is also he product of fear and oppression, and that even within Israel many would rightly condemn it as a worldview..

      On this basis the nations could indeed fight together to eliminate terrorism. But just maybe in the spirit of developing a multicultural reconciliation, terrorism too might fade.

      It is a difficult path – but all alternatives are doomed to failure. A thousand years might pass and there would still be the horror of what is really – genetically speaking – “internecine hatred”.”

      See what I mean – “Dramain”? – your framework applies to both sides.

      The Sheik in this article would seem to have a firm grip on realities in recognising that – as the article summarises – “only peace will gain the Palestinians a State, since at war Israel has total advantage” (we do not have here his actual words). He is right in the short term, but he is also right in seeing that this whole era of conflict that has been going on since the fall of the Ottoman Empire needs to be concluded with agreement and mutual evolution.

      The post Holocaust period is over – we have entered the era of modern developing Statehood. New parameters are needed. The old ones have left enough blood on the streets surely. The losses on both sides are appalling. Let everyone cease to be a race and no-one be tormented again for that which does not exist.

      • Lynne T

        More windbaggy drivel. There is no equivalence between the two actors. Israel, for instance, left Temple Mount under Waqf control as a gesture of cooperation. How did the Muslims return it?

      • John J

        “But just maybe in the spirit of developing a multicultural reconciliation”

        what a load of boloney

        islam has no spirit of reconciliation it is a supremacist entity that bodes ill for non mohammedans

      • Herb Grossman

        Considering the performance of gentiles in the past two millennia, the unceasing butchery and slaughter, Clovelley should be embarrassed to claim that the Jews are no better. We are better, but it is because of our decency and humanity, which we try to pass on to our children. Clean your own house first, before you try to condemn those with a higher morality. Your people have set a very low bar.

      • Yehuda Harmor

        yeah yeah, all good except that most Israelis are secular and don’t believe in any genetic superiority. Nor do they teach it to their kids. You are right about the stupid fucking settlements though.

      • joy

        welcome to the canadian human rights museum wpg MB where goodwill and peace on earth was proclaimed – not just on the 25th of december but to all mankind womankind to live in celebration of life and rebirth of Love. If you look from outerspace at the planet earth, we see no dividing lines – Yanni Composer. Paint a beautiful picture of our beautiful planet.

  • Arthur Horowitz

    “….a Saudi intellectual, Abdallah Hamid a Din…” Surely you jest.

    • Lynne T

      Unfortunately, Clovelly believes the drivel he writes in such copious quantities.

  • Deborah Danan, your articles are truly amazing and appreciated!

    The “Truths” that you bring out in your articles need to go viral and picked
    up by all types of Media!

    Thank you for sharing your written talents !!