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February 24, 2017 7:48 am

A Muslim Woman’s Fight Against Radical Islam

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Farhana Qazi. Photo: provided.

Farhana Qazi. Photo: provided.

If there is a single question that defines the geo-politics of our age, it might be the question that Farhana Qazi has been asking herself for almost 20 years: Why do so many Muslims kill in the name of their religion?

If she has not found all of the answers, Qazi has done much to facilitate our understanding of these issues, primarily as they relate to Muslim women and the rise of female extremists.

A Muslim herself, Qazi has worked largely behind the scenes: at the Counter-Terrorism Center in Washington, D.C.; the Rand Corporation think tank; as an instructor on terrorism for the US military; and as an author. Her work has taken her back to her native Pakistan, where she has immersed herself in the lives of Muslim extremist women, met with the mothers of suicide bombers, come to know women who have endured imprisonment and shared stories with women who, in her words, “have tried to break the barriers of patriarchy and patrilineal traditions.”

Born in Lahore, Qazi came to America with her mother at the age of one, joining her father who was already working in Tennessee. Soon after, the family moved to Austin, Texas, which Qazi considers her hometown. Her work since then, both in the service of her country and as a beacon for moderate Muslims seeking to reconcile their beliefs with the violent extremism facing the world, has received lavish praise and numerous awards. She is now working on a book that examines why Muslims turn violent, and the ways in which recent political events contribute to violent extremism.

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She told me her story in a recent interview, and shared her crucial insights on radical Islam, female terrorists, and where we stand now in the face of the radical Islamist threat.

Abigail R. Esman: Why did your family move to the US?

Farhana Qazi: My father came to the US because it was his dream since he was a child. He admired Western values, and later worked with American clients when he was a young accountant in Lahore, Pakistan. He came to the US to pursue an MBA, and thanks to then-Senator Al Gore, my father was allowed to stay in this country to work after his student visa expired. Gore wrote a letter on my father’s behalf. I was a year old when I moved here with my mother. I barely remember my birth city, Lahore — the cultural nerve of Pakistan.

ARE: How important was religion to you growing up?

FQ: My parents were born Muslim, but their practice was liberal, almost secular. My father is an intellectual and philosopher who admires all religions; he values the Ten Commandments that came from Moses. He idolizes the principles of Buddhism, and he believes in the Christian concept of charity. My father has raised me to be a “humanist” rather than a Muslim. I embraced Sunni Islam later in life

ARE: Many women in Pakistan face oppression, forced marriage and family violence. How do you explain the freedom you have had in your life?

FQ: I am blessed to be an American Muslim woman. My father often tells me that he came to the US for me; because I would not have had the same opportunities in life had I lived in a country with patriarchal norms, age-old customs and traditions, most of which deny girls and women their basic rights. Culture trumps religion in Pakistan. But it’s not true in America, where I can practice my faith openly or privately.

I chose a male-dominated field: counter-terrorism. In the 1990s, I was often the only female speaker at international conferences. Now, there are more women in the CT field, but at the time I stood out because I was an American, a woman and a Muslim.

ARE: Was having that freedom part of what has guided you in your work?

FQ: Yes, my unique cultural and linguistic background made me marketable for the intelligence community. There were no female Muslims at the Counter-Terrorism Center. I believe I was hired to help the Center understand the extremists’ narrative, rhetoric and recruitment patterns. Later, upon leaving the Center, I joined the Rand Corporation as a policy analyst-researcher and traveled to the Muslim world to engage local communities. Because I understand both cultures, I have been able to speak to women who might have not been accessible to other American men or women.

When I trained the US armed forces as a senior instructor, I received the  21st Century Leader Award from the National Committee on American Foreign Policy (NCAFP) for my service as an American Muslim woman.

ARE: You began working in the area of counterterrorism and issues surrounding the lives of Muslim women very early in your career. What motivated this?

FQ: My mother is a war hero to me. She joined the Pakistani Army when she was barely 20 years old to fight for Kashmir. In the 1960s, Pakistan was at war with India for the second time. My mama, barely five feet tall and with a petite frame, volunteered for the Army and trained at Qaddafi stadium in Lahore, holding a British .303 rifle that was taller than she was. She often told me, “I wanted to prove to my country that women can fight, too.” She was raised in a country at a time when women and girls had few career choices and were often bound by familial responsibilities. But not my mother, who dreamed of being a politician.

ARE: Mostly, you’ve focused your work on women.

FQ: I’d say my work focuses on understanding radical Islam and the divisions in the Muslim world today — a broken mass of billions of people blinded by age-old customs, traditions and patriarchal norms steeped in ancient cultures. I’m trying to understand the way that Islam has been destroyed by splinter groups, religious fanatics, and hardline conservatives that issue fatwas that oppose women’s rights. I’ve come to learn that while terrorists claim to empower women, the reality is that women are cannon fodder for them. In the end, women don’t matter, which begs the question: why do they join?

ARE: Then for many years you worked at Rand. What did you do there?

FQ: I conducted research on Al Qaeda networks and the female suicide bombers that we were starting to see in Iraq. I was the first to predict that there would be a series of bombings by women — I wrote my first op-ed on the subject in The Baltimore Sun, predicting more attacks.

ARE: And then you worked at the US Counter-Terrorism Center.

FQ: I was the first American Muslim woman to be hired. I was 25 years old.

ARE: How serious is the problem of Muslim female extremists right now? Is it a threat that is growing?

FQ: This is an ongoing threat that is shielded by men. We don’t hear of attacks by women because it is unreported. For example, I know from my US military contacts that there were a number of Afghan female suicide bombers, and I am writing about this in a chapter for my next book on female terrorists — but that phenomenon was not reported.

The real concern is women who support extremist men, women who raise their children to be terrorists.

ARE: Are Muslim women in the West generally more or less likely to radicalize than their counterparts in the Islamic world?

FQ: Western women have different challenges; the main concern for a Muslim girl or woman in the West has to do with identity. Often, girls who join ISIS are trapped between two opposing cultures and societies — their life at home and their life outside the home (at school, for example).

One of my chapters in my new book is called “The Denver Girls.” I remember visiting the community that was affected by the three East African girls who boarded a plane to join ISIS, but were brought back home. A Sudanese woman I interviewed told me that ISIS empowers our girls, and I can see why she thinks that: because many Muslim girls living in the West are still bound by cultural rules and have little freedom outside of their home environment. They aren’t allowed to ‘hang out’ with Western friends and these girls certainly don’t have the same opportunities as their brothers or male cousins. In these cases, girls look for alternatives, which terrorism provides.

Further, I believe the teachings of Islam (which I live by: peace, compassion and mercy) are not preached or taught at home. When Muslims have spiritual pride and believe that God’s love is only for a select few, then this teaching restricts children in many ways: they are unable to cope in a Western society and compelled to stay within their own communities, which makes girls more vulnerable to extremist recruitment and makes them feel that they do not belong.

ARE: What are some of the major reasons you’ve found that explain the phenomenon of female Muslim terrorists?

FQ: No two Muslim female terrorists are alike. And while the motives will vary, I do believe that patterns don’t lie. Contextual clues are important indicators for violence, and by context, this would include a girl’s home; her exposure to violence, trauma or abuse; her access to violent messaging online and the time she spends reading and engaging with violent individuals in the digital space; a personal tragedy (did she lose someone to violence?); and much more. I’ve learned that there is no “aha” moment or trigger point, but a sequence of triggers and “aha” moments that lead to the path of violence.

ARE: Based on your expertise, what do you think of Trump’s “Muslim ban” or travel ban?

FQ: The travel ban may have an adverse effect. I believe in protecting our country from external threats. What worries me is that the threat is already here. If we look back at attacks or attempted attacks over the past decade, radical Muslims have been living in our midst. [Orlando shooter] Omar Mateen, [San Bernardino killers] Syed and Tashfeen Farook, [Chattanooga shooter] Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, [Fort Hood shooter] Nidal M. Hassan and more. Many of these terrorists were not from the countries listed in the travel ban. What we need is greater civic involvement and community policing.

ARE: Have you experienced threats of any kind in relation to your work?

FQ: I have been warned to change careers and not talk about Muslim terrorists. But to do that would be to ignore the realities of our time. As a devout Muslim woman who still believes in Islam’s core message of peace, I have to acknowledge that there are Muslims who kill in the name of Islam, and manipulate the faith for political or personal reasons. And these individuals, male or female, need to be stopped and countered by Muslims.

ARE: In the now-infamous words of Mitch McConnell, “she persisted.” Why do you persist?

FQ: My father taught me the word “persistence” when I was a young girl in Texas. He often said, “every challenge is an opportunity,” which made the word “persist” a positive term in my mind. To persist is to succeed, and to succeed is to make a difference. I live by the maxim: lead a life of service. And the only way to do that is to persist.

Abigail R. Esman, the author, most recently, of Radical State: How Jihad Is Winning Over Democracy in the West (Praeger, 2010), is a freelance writer based in New York and the Netherlands. Follow her at @radicalstates.

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  • pacman

    Barely remember? She was a year old when she came to the US so how does she have any memories at all.I barely remember my birth city, Lahore — the cultural nerve of Pakistan.” Is she willing to repudiate the violent teachings of mohammed and the numerous hadiths that have been published over the century justifying “lesser” jihad, i.e. lilitary jihad? ISIS is doing exaclty what propelled islam to the forefront of world history. She,like other “moderate”muslim apolgists is deluded or a liar. Islam has nothing to so with peace and compassion unless you call a complete political system dedicated to the establishment of dar al islam by any means necessay, including rape, slavery and conquest a religion of peace. Islam divides the world into the House of Islam and the House of War, the Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb. A canonically obligatory perpetual state of war exists until the Dar al-harb is either converted or subjugated to islam. “I was a year old when I moved here with my mother.

    • frontier001

      Clearly you ave never studied or known anything about Islamic faith. You see your ignrnace is what makes Muslims feel that you are not willing to learn or listen. You accused Mohammed of telling people to get killed yet you cannot provide or prove evidence for which such hadiths that even exist saying such things. You see ISIS don;t read haiths ISIS read literature of demagogues of 12 and 16th century who faught against Turks and Crusaders justifying their ideas not something they read in a hadith or something they know from the Quran they are taugh theorlogy just like anyone else is but with a agenda.

      You make up so much crap like:

      ” Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb. A canonically obligatory perpetual
      state of war exists until the Dar al-harb is either converted or
      subjugated to islam.”

      Who said that?? The Mohammed or like Ibn Taymiyyah?

      Islam says subjugate people by force? You have never read the Quran.

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