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Hungarian Church Seeks to Defrock Pastor After wife’s Anti-Semitic Speech

May 19, 2013 4:13 am 11 comments

The logo of the far-right Hungarian political party, Jobbik, whose rising influence in the country has led to concerns of increased anti-Semitism and hate speech. Photo: Wikimedia Commons.

The Hungarian Reformed Church is trying to defrock Lorant Hegedus, a Protestant pastor, for participating in a radical right-wing rally during which his wife had given a speech denouncing Jews and Israel.

Hegedus’s wife is a deputy for the right-wing Jobbik party in the Hungarian Parliament. The party had won 17 percent of the country’s vote in the 2010 election.

“This is a permanent provocation… It has nothing to do with the Gospel,” said Gusztav Bolcskei, the church’s presiding bishop, regarding Hegedus’s involvement with Jobbik, according to Reuters. Defrocking the pastor “should start at the church district level,” Bolcskei said. “It can be done, but it’s a very long procedure,” he said.

Peter Feldmajer, who just stepped down as the head of the 80,000-100,000-member Hungarian Jewish community, said Hungarian Jews are “satisfied with the actions of the churches,” and that he thinks “at the end of the day, he will be fired.”

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  • Sydell Ruth

    anti semitism has always been rampart in Hungary.When Jews returned -mostly from concentration camps-after World War-they were greeted with” We don’t want you here Jew-leave”

  • Straightshooter

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • I rely on the Algemeiner for Jewish news which is not published elsewhere.
    Unfortunately, East (and West) European Antisemitism is no news.

  • Now that the Syrians have informed the Jews of their latest defenses, count on them to be demolished before they are put into use. Some people don’t have the common sense to just SHUT UP. blah-blah-blah…jeeeze…the Israelis are jus’ trembling! Yeah…right.
    Syrians just make fools of themselves.

    Here’s some advice for them:

    DON’T F–K AROUND WITH THE JEWS

    THEY ARE MEAN BASTARDS WHEN THEY HAFTA DEFEND THEMSELVES.

  • Who cares? There have been anti-Semites since before the time of Jesus! It doesn’t mean anything. They haven’t hurt the Jews. Before Hitler, the State of Israel didn’t even exist! Now that Israel exists, Anti-Semites are nothing more than a bunch of raving half-assed maniacs, screaming into the wind! The more they rant, the crazier they appear to the rest of the world! Hitler was the worst thing that ever happened to Anti-Semitism! Now ya can’t even be a respectable anti-Semite!! And it turns out that JESUS WAS A JEW HIMSELF. NOW WE’RE ALL IN BIG TROUBLE

  • Steve MacLeod

    I am so happy to hear this. I mean the actions taken against the pastor for appearing at this political rally. For too many years the Jews were persecuted for being Christ killers which they are not guilty and never have been. Ignorance is reason. It was not until 1600’s in England etc could the common man even get a hold of a Bible The New Testament. To hate Israel shows they do not know much of anything which they may claim to believe.

  • jerry hersch

    At the beginning of the Protestant Reformation there were large Protestant communities in Italy,Hungary and and in what became Czechoslavakia..almost all in Italy disappeared during the counter-Reformation,the Czechh Protestants were greatly reduced…Hugary was different.
    The battle of Mohacs an Ottoman Empire victory secured the existence of the Hungarian Protestants and group that today is the largest Protestant community in eastern Europe.The Hungarian Calvinists (20% of Hungary’s population) has historically been more sympathetic to the Jewish people than other religious and non-religious sectors.Calvinists also make up about 3% of Romania’s population largely in Transylvania across the border from Hungary (about 750,000 largely of Hungarian ethnicity).
    The Calvinist churches have many views the Netherlands and its historic openness to Jews is Calvinist…so is the Church of Scotland.

    • Jerry: I think you need some catching up on the CofS which recently issued a particularly nasty document about Israel which was “fisked” thoroughly by the “Bishop Cranmer” blog on May 6, 2013 post “Church of Scotland Denies Jesus was the Promised Messiah”:

      “Christians should not believe those parts of Scripture where God promised that a virgin would conceive: Isaiah 7:14 didn’t really refer to a promised messiah: it was just about a general plan of salvation. And he wasn’t born in the long-promised Bethlehem either – that’s just a metaphor for anywhere, like Slough. And he didn’t have to be a ‘he’ either – that’s just a metaphor for all humankind. And his name didn’t have to be Jesus (Mt 2:21) – meaning ‘The Lord saves’, because it could have been Brian or Steve: there’s no real promise that the Lord will save us from our sins (Zech 3:9). He is not ‘God with us’ (Mt 1:23), and he didn’t need to suffer (Is 53:7) because there’s no real reward for obeying the word of God (Lk 11:27). Jesus isn’t the visible image of the invisible God through whom all things were created (Col 1:15f) – that’s just silly. He didn’t reconcile us to himself through the cross (v20), and he’s not the glory of the nations (Ps 96:3; 39:21). And when God promises that nothing shall separate us from the love of Christ (Rom 8:35), he didn’t really mean ‘nothing’ – he meant God’s love is completely dependent on the which side of the bed he gets out of in a morning.

      Oh, hang on. His Grace has got it wrong.

      Sorry.

      It’s only the Jews who shouldn’t take God’s promises literally.

      That’s alright, then.

      And neither should Christians when they relate to Jews and Israel. Ah, now it’s becoming clearer.

      If God makes a promise to Jews, it’s a metaphor. If He makes a promise to Christians, it’s literal except where it refers to the Jews and Israel.

      Yes, that’s right. According to a report by the Church of Scotland, ‘Israel’ and the ‘Promised Land’ is all just one big mushy metaphor for… well, something like the fuzziness of promises that aren’t promises. God’s promises are just pictures, without precise meaning, and certainly could never apply to matters of geography. The ‘Promised Land’ in Scripture is not a literal land – it’s more ‘a metaphor of how things ought to be among the people of God. This “promised land” can be found, or built, anywhere’.

      Except, of course, in Israel.”

      the whole post may be found here:

      http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.ca/search?updated-max=2013-05-10T09:19:00%2B01:00

      • jerry hersch

        Lynn- I only mentioned that the CofS is Calvinist also..and Calvinist churches and denominations come in many stripes and colors.
        Most look more favorably upon Jews than other church groups that surround them geographically and ethnically..the Dutch Reformed Church in the Netherlands,the many REFORMED Calvinist denominations in the USA,and the 1200-plus churches of the Hungarian Reformed Church (with 1200+ churches there are bound to be a few asses).
        The Church of Scotland stands out almost alone among the Calvinist churches for its anti-Jewish stances.

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