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September 6, 2012 9:41 pm

Egypt: Kill a Christian, Collect a Reward

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The Coptic "Hanging Church" in Cairo. Photo: Berthold Werner.

Recently an Egyptian Muslim posted a YouTube videotape of himself cursing Islam, its holy book, the Koran, tearing the latter to pieces and throwing it in the garbage.  Excerpts of what he said follow, and the video is posted below:

There it is, Allah’s book, this is the basic catastrophe. I don’t know what day it is of this disgusting month of Ramadan! You are making the tearing of the Quran such a big and dangerous thing… it is instinctive to tear this book, those sons of [profanity] think they can threaten me and challenge me to tear the Quran, but I want to prove to them that they are nothing and what is the big deal in tearing this book!! There it is [he starts tearing the Quran] in the trash. Are you feeling better now! You cannot touch a hair on my head! We keep blaming Hamas and Gaza, but it is not them, it is this son of [profanity] book that I am stepping on right now. That book is the source of all evil and the real catastrophe. There is nothing new here, it is not Omar Abdel Rahman, Abbud or all the others; it is this garbage that is causing us to run in a demonic never-ending circle that will never end.

While this latest Koran desecration is a reminder that there are everyday Egyptians who are sick of the Talibanization of Egypt, a recent talk show on Al Hafiz channel concerning this incident is an indicator of what is in store for them.

After the video of the man tearing the Koran was played, one of three guests, a bearded and white-robed Dr. Mahmoud Sha’ban, visibly shaken by what he had just seen, said:

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Someone like him must receive the punishment he deserves—and it is death. He is an apostate… It is clear from what he says that he is a Muslim, and must be killed as an apostate. As for that act itself, it is an infidel act, and he deserves to be struck by the sword in a public place—and as soon as possible; as soon as possible; as soon as possible. It must be announced and photographed and disseminated among the people, so that all the people may know that we respect our Koran and its words from Allah, and whoever insults it, receives his punishment from Allah. If people like him are left alone, they will only get bolder and bolder.

The next guest, Sheikh Abdul Mohsin, said: “I support the words of Sheikh Mahmoud [who just spoke], that this man must be killed fast, that he may be an example to others, so that all learn that we have reached a new phase in respecting Islam and the holy sanctity of the Koran and Sunna. This man has become an apostate and must suffer the penalty in front of the people.”

The third and final guest, Dr. Abdullah, was somewhat critical of the first two Islamic scholars—not because they called for the man’s death, but because, by focusing on the fact that the man had apostatized, it seemed as if they were exonerating non-Muslims: “The issue of killing him is not limited to his being a Muslim and then apostatizing. No, it is known to us from the Sharia that whoever insults the Prophet or tears the Koran, his judgment is death—whether he’s a Muslim or non-Muslim, or non-Muslim.”

Later, a listener called in saying, “Just so you know, if I ever meet one of these people, their life is void—they’re simply dead.” The talk show host, who agreed that the man must be slain, responded with some moderate talk about letting the state handle such people, to which the first sheikh, Dr. Mahmoud Sha’ban, erupted in rage:

“Man, we’re talking about the religion of Allah! The religion! The religion!! The woman who insulted the Prophet, he voided her life! There were ten people at the conquest of Mecca whose lives the Prophet also voided!”

When the host tried to get a word in, the cleric exclaimed: “I am the sheikh, not you. I am the sheikh, not you! I am the sheikh! Hear me to the end, before I get up and leave!!”

Dr. Abdullah tried to mediate by clarifying to the host: “Do you know what the word ‘void’ [hadr] means [in Islamic jurisprudence]? It means it is the right for anyone who meets them [those who insult Islam] to kill them.”

Simply put, the host was wrong to think that those who insult Islam should only be killed by the state. Any good Muslim can—and should—kill them, wherever he finds them. Of course, with a Muslim Brotherhood president in office, whether those who offend Islam are killed by the state or by Islamic vigilantes becomes somewhat semantic.

Already under President Morsi’s first two months, Islamists have become more emboldened—whether by pressuring women to wear the hijab, killing a Muslim youth for publicly holding hands with his fiancée, or disseminating flyers that call for the total genocide of Egypt’s Christian Copts—flyers that even openly included names and mosque contact points for those Muslims who wish to collect their rewards for killing Christians.

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.

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  • dongszkie

    just don’t be surprise if a voice will howl out w/ denial from islamic society accusing him to be a jew, or a coptic from the jungle of the amazon.

  • Eric R.

    Raymond,

    I have read your work on this over at other sites, like PJM, and while I realize that the Copts will likely have to leave, I don’t want too many of them here, where they will bring their vicious anti-Semitism with them.

    My suggestion is that they be absorbed into Orthodox Christian countries in Eastern Europe, which could use the Christian population.

  • American Me

    Moderate Islam at work… :/

  • Sameh Abdel-Hakam

    and i can’t believe you’re using Al-Fajr news paper (this cheep-ass lying paper) as a source 😀

  • Sameh Abdel-Hakam

    and you must know that all i need to make suck a flyer is a microsoft word computer program..and a printer right? i can even make one in the name of Christ calling for killing Muslims and all 🙂
    be more fair in your writings please

  • Sameh Abdel-Hakam

    I can agree that the way to handle this guy and his acts won’t be by killing him, and i need you to know that back in the days of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) a man came to the mosque and wanted to pee inside the mosque, the companions were provoked and wanted to stop him..but the prophet prevented them from doing so..and he approached the man and told his that mosques weren’t built for this purpose..then he asked for a pot of water and poured it on the ground..and that was it. the man wasn’t beaten or killed.

    i couldn’t help noticing two things..all your comments on this issue were about how those people on TV handled the situation..you didn’t talk about the origin of the problem..the act of tearing the Quran itself..and how wrong and inconsidering this was..when that student was killed in Suez for holding hands with his fiancee we all stood against this act..cuz it was wrong..we didn’t say :good riddans..so as you brought this issue up i was expecting that you would simply indicate your refusal to such an act of desecration of a holy book of a certain group (Muslims)..it’s really not the best way make a point.
    also i couldn’t help seeing that the headline of the article wasn’t anything close to the content but for this tiny link at the very end of the article..i really never liked this way of getting audience.

    • CDizard

      “you didn’t talk about the origin of the problem..the act of tearing the Quran itself..and how wrong and inconsidering this was”

      It’s a book. People who freak out when someone damages a book are unbalanced. Get over it.

    • jimmy

      Books full of rape and killing aren’t holy. The trees they were made from are more holy. I’d love to burn one, but don’t want to waste the money or the tree. That goes for the bible too. If your gods are so powerful, why can’t they do any of their own dirty work. Oh yeah, because they don’t fucking exist. Islam is to peaceful, as Hitler was to buttercups and daisies.

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