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January 22, 2014 8:07 am

Why Are We Silent About the Falsification of Biblical History in Artworks?

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Jesus, with European features, as traditionally depicted in artwork. Photo: Wikimedia Commons.

When I recently visited the impressive Marc Chagall exhibit at the Jewish Museum in New York City, I was surprised that more than half of the 31 paintings include a crucifixion theme.

More surprising, the dying Jesus is clearly a Jew, frequently shown wearing a Jewish prayer shawl rather than a plain loin cloth. For Chagall, the crucifixion represented the common ground of suffering of Christians and Jews. In reminding us of Jesus’ Jewish identity, Chagall departed from the massive numbers of artworks that have falsely pictured Jesus as strictly Christian, thus fueling the historic rift between Christians and Jews.

“Do you know that Jesus was Jewish?” I posed this question to both Christians and Jews when I was doing research for my book Jesus Uncensored: Restoring the Authentic Jew. Many people acknowledged that Jesus was indeed Jewish. But I discovered that what they really meant was that he used to be Jewish – before he became Christian.

“Of course, he was Jewish,” said Jane, a young woman educated in Catholic schools. “And did he remain Jewish throughout his life?” I asked her. “Oh, no, he became a Christian.” “When did that happen?” I asked. “When he was baptized by John the Baptist,” she said. “It says so in the Gospels.”

Scores of other people I talked to gave similar responses. Some even contended that Jesus was born Christian or that he launched the new religion of Christianity. The Gospels make it clear that Jesus and his family were dedicated Jews throughout their lives. Bible scholars do not dispute this. For example, in his book Rabbi Jesus, Episcopal priest Bruce Chilton says: “It became clear to me that everything Jesus did was as a Jew, for Jews, and about Jews.”

In fact, the well-documented but often ignored truth is that there was no such thing as Christianity during the life of Jesus. The term “Christian” never appears in the Gospels, while the term “Jew” has 82 mentions. Nor is there any evidence that Jesus envisioned or started a new religion.

But these realities seem to have eluded the artists of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. Consider Bartolomé Esteban Murillo’s 17th century painting of John the Baptist baptizing Jesus (The Baptism of Christ). The baptism here is clearly a Christian conversion. But according to the Gospels, John only baptized Jews, and he did so to purify them for the expected coming of the prophesized Jewish Messiah. Yet Murillo’s painting shows John holding a crucifix staff – a Christian symbol that wouldn’t come into being until three centuries later. In fact, the cross was a hated symbol in the time of Jesus.

Baptism of Christ by Bartolomé Esteban Murillo.

Murillo’s painting is not alone. In my walking tour of the Renaissance galleries of New York City’s Metropolitan Museum of Art, I encountered painting after painting that omitted Jesus’ true identity. In the bulk of Medieval and Renaissance artworks, Jesus, his family, and close followers are converted into latter-day Christians. They are typically depicted as blond, fair-skinned northern European Christians. Reinforcing that misrepresentation, many of the paintings include anachronistic Christian saints and artifacts. Other paintings in art books about the Medieval and Renaissance periods, such as Gospel Figures in Art, show the same falsifications.

In defense of artists, art was a tough competitive business in Renaissance Italy. One art critic characterized it as “no picnic.” If you wanted to stay in business you had to give your wealthy patrons what they wanted — and that meant totally Christianized artworks. Whether deliberate, inadvertent, or both, the omissions still add up to pernicious falsifications of biblical history with divisive consequences that still reverberate today.

But tell art historians and even lay people who are interested in art that artworks depicting Jesus (and his family and close followers) falsify biblical history, and you can expect a dismissive response, or even a condescending smirk, suggesting you are ignorant or naïve. I’ve experienced that many times. These experts maintain that contemporizing – depicting figures in Renaissance settings, attire, and appearance – is typical of the “Renaissance style.” For these experts, the “style” mantra has become an unexamined response that closes the book on the story.

But contemporizing biblical figures is not the end of the story. It’s the starting point of a gross misunderstanding. Contemporizing – and fashioning in your own image – is one thing, but erasing identities is another matter, a serious matter with serious consequences.

In the case of these art misrepresentations, falsification is an overlooked but powerful underpinning of historic anti-Semitism. In presenting Jesus as a Renaissance Christian with no Jewish connection or identity, these works created the illusion that Jesus and Jews were not only of different ethnicities and religions but that they were in opposition or conflict.

Punctuating this point, paintings like Albrecht Durer’s 16th century Jesus Among the Doctors (based on an episode in the Gospel of Luke 2:41-52), picture the Jews, not as blond northern Europeans, but as menacing and ugly figures. The reddish-blond delicate and ethereal Jesus stands in stark contrast.

Jesus among the doctors by Albrecht Durer.

Although African and other artists have depicted a black Jesus – representations probably closer to Jesus’ actual appearance than the Northern Renaissance blond renditions – they still omit the Jewish connection, thereby also contributing to falsification.

Black Madonna and Child of Einsiedeln.

In inventing a rift between Jesus and Jews these artworks widened the divide between Christianity and Judaism – a divide that has only recently begun to close. This past year, in the spirit of reconciliation, Pope Francis said: “It’s a contradiction for a Christian to be anti-Semitic: His roots are Jewish.”

The art exhibit that I’m organizing, “Putting Judaism Back in the Picture: Toward Healing the Christian/Jewish Divide,” will correct the art distortions with redrawn and other original works that tell the two sides of the Jesus story: Jesus the faithful Jew and Jesus whose life and teachings inspired a new religion. For example, Rod Borghese’s version of Murillo’s The Baptism of Christ shows Jesus and John as Jews.

And his rendition of Michael Pacher’s 15th century painting, The Betrothal of the Virgin, pictures Mary and Joseph as the rural village Jews that they were, not as regal figures in a palatial setting with a high Christian church official performing the ceremony.

It’s time for scholars to acknowledge how the historical distortions in biblical depictions have contributed to anti-Semitism and to the false divide between Jews and Christians. It’s time for art historians to start telling the truth about the falsification of biblical history. The truth will take nothing away from the magnificence of the artworks, but it will contribute substantially to authenticity and the healing of long-standing wrongs and wounds.

Note: Rod Borghese, an architect and painter in Ottawa, Canada, who has joined the art exhibit, along with other talented artists, is a distant descendant of the Italian Renaissance banking family that commissioned many paintings and collected a large body of others. Today, the famed Borghese Gallery in Rome houses one of the world’s great art collections.

Bernard Starr is a college professor, psychologist and journalist. He is author of Jesus Uncensored: Restoring the Authentic Jew. For more information about the Art Exhibit visit

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  • With all that said, the letter J-j is still less than 500 years old. Abraham was a Muslim and the first Hebrew mentioned who fathered 8 children who were Hebrews that had one tribe called Israel. This story is in the Torah, the first five books in the bible. Bible means book and since there are so many books in it, it is considered to be a library of many books…

  • Yes Sonia, I agree that it’s important to get the message out about what has been done in the name of Jesus—-and perhaps even more important to get across that these acts were totally antithetical to what Jesus represented. That’s why I included a chapter in my book, Jesus Uncensored, titled “How Dare You in My Name” in which Jesus testifies at a mock trial against popes and other high church officials, monarchs, and additional perpetrators of violence and anti-Semitism from the fourth century to the twentieth century. In this mock trial Jesus poses the question to these defendants: “where in my life and teachings did you find justification for committing your heinous acts in my name?” In one challenge, Jesus confronts Martin Luther: “How could you tell your followers to burn down synagogues in my name when the synagogue was my spiritual home?”

    I would love to see a film that tells this side of the Jewish Jesus story. The bible films about Jesus typically start out with the Jewish beginning but then promptly morph into a Christian story. I’m currently exploring film possibilities with the trial scène as the springboard. Hopefully, I will convince a major filmmaker that such a film featuring the thoroughly Jewish Jesus–as described in the Gospels– would be truly revolutionary—and undeniably authentic!!

  • KRyan

    Was Jesus a Khazar?

  • matt

    Every article from this author revolves around the ‘Jewishness’ of Jesus as if it’s more important then his role as the Messiah God in the Flesh. Jesus followed the Mosaic traditions which did not have all the later on oral traditions and added rituals. Jesus followed the traditions which God taught and not the others.. So this whole big Jewish kick is tiring since Jesus was God and religion is unimportant to him since he is the author of it.

    • Matt:”This whole big Jewish kick” may seem silly or humerous to you, but it was no joke for the untold numbers of Jews who were slaughtered throughout history on the belief that Jesus wasn’t Jewish, or defected from Judaism, or opposed the Jews and Judaism (all false)– and artworks that erased Jesus’ Jewish identity reinforced those notions —and all these factors combined gave further license to the absurd charge that Jews collectively killed Jesus— Jesus,a Jew who we only know about because ALL HIS FOLLOWERS WERE JEWSISH AND THERE WOULD BE NO CHRISTIANITY IF NOT FOR JESUS’ JEWISH FOLOWERS. I just don’t see how all this is a trivial matter.

    • Patrick

      Dear Matt,

      As you may know, Jesus came only to the Jews. His Hebrew name would have been Yeshua. The Jewish people are God’s Chosen People…. then and even today. God made a covenant with Himself, that regardless of what the Jewish people did or didn’t do, they would remain His people and no one can change that. Period. That’s pretty Jewish!

      Unfortunately, many churches have presented the Bible and our Gift of Salvation through a very flawed doctrine known as ‘Replacement Theology’, which essentially teaches that God is done with the Jews. That is a dangerous doctrine, it is anti-Semitic. In my opinion, this helps explain why many Christians have mistreated the Jews over the years. This teaching is straight from the pit of Hell. I know first hand, I grew up in a church that taught this!

      Additionally, the Catholic Church, along with others, have tried to scrub the Jewishness out of the Bible. Intentionally or through ignorance, it’s still the same and a big mistake.

      Today, we are even seeing several liberal groups of the ‘church’, taking an anti-Jewish stand against Israel and her people. I would not want to be them when Jesus returns!

      To truly understand who Jesus is, we need to not only view Him, but the entire Bible both Old and New Testaments, through a Jewish ‘lens’. Since the church has not done this, this helps explain how things have gotten so off track with regard to our theology, our relationship to the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, and our relationship with the Jewish people. God has a plan and we are beginning to see the wall of separation come down between Jew and Christian.

      I am not Jewish, but over the past several years I have learned a lot about the Jewishness of our Messiah, whom I believe is Yeshua, Jesus Christ.

      Matt, I would encourage you to pray and ask the Lord to remove the blinders from your eyes, as He did for me, and so that you may then see how precious the Scriptures are when viewed this way. Jews and Christians need each other. It’s God’s plan.

  • Claude Idel

    1) concerning jesus. nobody knows who or how he really was. all we got is the fictional jesus of the gospels. you can compare it to the works of homer, who knows anything about the real historical odysseus, hector aso? so what we got is the myth and what we judge is the myth. my judgement is that the myth on one side transports the essentials of jewish ethics, which is of course a good thing! but on the other side the polemics against the enemies (“the jews, pharisees aso..”) are so unfair and malevolent and so in contradiction with the ethical teachings themselves that the evil overweighs the good. there is a direct line from there to massmurder. it is all in all a destructive myth although it inspired many many men and women to do real good things.
    2) concerning images, statues aso. in my opinion it is highly dangerous to objectivate g-d. the more you do it the more you devalorize all those that cannot or do not want to identify themselves with this objectivation. it starts when you give g-d a name (that is why jewish tradition says hashem which is the refusal of any fixed name, cf. parasha shemot) and its getting worse if you produce pictures statues and so on. iconography is a means of legitimizing political or cultural superiority with all the destructive consequences we know (see modern iconography) that is the reason, in my opinion, why, all in all, christian culture killed more people than muslim. in its makeup islam has not the same strong tendency to eliminate the other as christendom has because islam has much less iconography. there is not such a strong need to bring reality in congruence with the picture. its easier to tolerate the other.


      The number of people murdered in the name of Mohammad is in the billions. They continue murdering or slaving till this day. Islam is based on submission and destruction of cultures. Christianity is not.
      It is a pity how ashkenazi jews are so ignorant of Islam. In islamic societies a non muslim is a DHIMMI a half citizen burdened by taxes(yiziah) and abuse. There is no freedom at all. That is the reason why terrorism and slavery are so intertwined with the islamic faith of world domination. Shame on you, you need to live in judenrein Saudi Arabia to understand..

      • WRONG CHAIM..THE number of murdered by the xtians amounts to multi millions if not a billion.

        The number killed at the hands of arabs are far less.. said LESS then the xtians….
        and we learn thats who will bring the last war…but will enlist the help of the xtians

        The ashkanazi has been at the mercy of the xtians more then the sephardic

    • Claude, you are correct. Many people have questioned whether Jesus actually existed. And others have said that even if he did exist, there are so many gaps in his biography, as presented in the Gospels, that may of the accounts of him could be myths.

      However, fact, fiction, myth, or reality, the persona of Jesus, who is described as a thoroughly practicing Jew in the Gospels, has been the springboard for the later launch of the religion called Christianity. And once under way, Christianity was and continues to be a reality–a reality that was responsible for many atrocities throughout history in the name Jesus. Too bad that Jesus wasn’t around to comment on the use of his name for atrocities–atrocities and anti-Semitic genocidal acts that he surely wouldn’t have approved. Or, as stated by a character in the film Hanna and her Sisters: “If Jesus came back and saw what’s going on in his name, he’d never stop throwing up.”

      In regard to images: Yes, they are powerful in framing the way we view reality. The omission of Jesus Jewish heritage fueled the antagonism between Judaism and Christianity—and that’s a reality–a reality, as I stated in the article, that continues to reverberate today.

  • Joe Phillips

    As a Southern Baptist I honor the fact that Jesus was a Jew and that He was/is the Messiah as scripture foretold. As the Apostle Paul said, Php 2:5-11 For let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
    who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Himself the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men. And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
    Therefore God has highly exalted Him, and has given Him a name which is above every name,
    that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of heavenly ones, and of earthly ones, and of ones under the earth;
    and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

  • Ross Yerkes

    At the “Last Supper” Jesus inaugurated a “New Covenant” with his apostles. With the bread and the wine celebration they became Christians and his death formalized it. Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism.

    • Efram Paul

      Liar, Ross.

    • Sonia Willats

      Ross, you have stated the usual “Christian” line, which seems to be blind to the fact that Jeshua was a Jew whom his contempories addressed as “Rabbi.” He said he had not come to remove a yod nor a tet from the law. He said he had come to fulfil the law.

      The disciples, Saul / Paul and thousands upon thousands of followers we read about in the New Testament WERE ALL JEWISH.


      Although I believe that Jesus is the Messiah I do not see Christianity as the REPLACEMENT OF JUDAISM. There is a great evil here that facilitated the Inquisition, the Holocaust etc. “Christians” and Europeans should deeply repent or forever hold their heads in shame. In fact the scripture about putting millstones around the necks of people who could otherwise see and believe fully applies here.

      Paul said that the other nations who come to believe in Jeshua’s message HAVE BEEN “GRAFTED ON”. Was that to A DEAD TREE?? Christians need to read their bibles anew and repent of the evil done in the name of “Christianity” instead of being self righteous.

      REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY IS WICKED AND HAS LED TO GREAT EVIL. I urge you to read Bernard Starr’s article again and see why he wrote it, and that his message is so important, as we watch the alarming speed at which anti-Semitism is rising again in Europe and America.


        I am with you Sonia, The replacement theology is the beginning of the enmity. Anyway about St. Paul I recommend the reading of: James the Brother of Jesus by Robert Eisenman, he has an interesting portray of James(Yaakov) and Paul who was probably an idumean connected to the Herodians.

        • Sonia Willats

          Thanks, Haim. I will look for the book by Robert Eisenman. The work of Marc Nanos (need to check reference) also excellent.

          The wilful ignorance of (possibly a majority of) Christians as to who their “Jesus” was historically, ethically and scripturally, enables them to see the Jew as ‘the Other’ and therefore to single Jews out for persecution, which should otherwise be a contradiction in terms.

          But that is changing in some Christian circles. CUFI represents many of these Christians and is doing wonderful work. So is Bernard Starr 🙂

        • Duane Gaul

          Great answer, Sonia. I am a Gentile who has been part of a Messianic Jewish Congregation for 14 years. My journey with them has been a real eye opener.

      • Mary

        The religion of the Old Testament is the religion of the New Testament. This is what Jesus and His apostles were, they were not like modern Jews whose religion comes from 500 years after Christ. The so-called replacement theology comes from the Bible, it is you who need to read all of it, not just certain parts: “He also hath made us fit ministers of the new testament… For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remains is in glory… because in Christ it is made void.” (2 Cor. 3: 6,11,14). Yes, Jesus did found a new covenant and Church, it is evident throughout the New Testament, especially in Matt. 16: 18,19 where Jesus says to Saint Peter “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to you the the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in Heaven.”

        • Sonia Willats

          Mary, indeed, I am aware of those Scriptures. Thank you for your care. But, even if we set aside rabinnical Judaism, I find the old testament replete with promises of the restoration and redemption of Israel. So yes, there was a further stage in the ongoing covenant not accepted by the leaders of the day.. and this will be resolved at the end of times. But I am 100% sure that Israel is never abandoned, only “provoked to jealousy” for a time. All over the prophets I see Israel’s restoration and redemption, and I am sure you do too. That is why I will never buy “replacement theology.” God’s covenant with Israel stands FOREVER because HE is faithful to His word and His promises.

    • carl

      The last supper was a Passover seder. There was no bread, only matzah. And whatever Jesus and his followers may have said does not negate the Covenant God established with his people. There is room for both Christians and Jews in this world without resorting to replacement theology.

    • drbob1

      Ross, Christians see that last supper as a big moment. Jews did in that era, too. It is beyond argument a Passover Seder in season, and presentation. That supper ritual celebrates escape for the Jewish people from Egypt and the trek to a new land. Thus in Christian iconography, as in all new religions,an older tradition was used to indicate connectivity with the new one. Not only was Christ always a self-described Jew, “Christian” started out as a generic term for delegitimized groups among the Jews, followers of sects attracted to supposed Messiahs. Whatever spin a church offers one on the Last Supper, language, history, and the Gospels themselves are logical starting points for understanding the phenomenon, the man, and the painting.

      • drbob1: Jesus intended the last supper to be a traditional Passover celebration —the traditional foods and all: “And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the Passover, that we may eat” (Luke: 22:8–and others in this chapter).
        Unfortunately, in the Paining of The Last Supper, Leonardo DaVinci fouled out in presenting the Jewish Passover table. If you look closely you will see bread on the table, not matzo. How do I know it’s bread? First, it looks like bread. Then,in my book, Jesus Uncensored, I quote Ross King,who,in his book, Leonardo and the Last Supper, cites a comment made about the painting in the sixteenth century: “A French priest visiting Santa Maria delle Grazie in 1515, the monastery in Milan where the mural was located, described Leonardo’s painting as ‘a thing of extraordinary excellence,’ and what he singled out for special praise was the table setting, ‘because one sees the bread on the table one would say that it is actual bread, not simulated’….” Also, king comments that there is no lamb on the table, the traditional food at the time, but there is eel, a Renaissance era delicacy, which is not kosher (Jesus only ate Kosher).

        Christians ask about Leonardo’s Passover table, “Where is t he Holy Grail (the goblet that Jesus drank out of).But from the Jewish perspective we ask: “where’s the matzo?”

    • ross..not even xtian scholars say that…

    • Bart A. Charta

      Swallow the Leader?

  • Susan


  • Yikes. ELAIM, are you referring to my paintings? Yes it is just a hobby, but many of the paintings I am repainting were originally commissioned by the Borghese family. I will eventually repaint all of them.


      Maestro Borghese, You really ht it on the nail in your paintings… You show the people of the new testament in such a realistic fashion. It would had enraged the antisemitic Martin Luther and his nazi followers who conceived an Aryan Christ. Even today we have the Opus Dei and other fascist groups who get really offende with any depiction of Jesus the Jew!

  • Saba

    Excellent article and I agree that much of the art of the Medieval and Renaissance periods,depicted Jesus as a gentile.Unfortunately the art of that time period stripped Jesus of his Jewishness and created a false view of Jesus,Judaism and Jews. Most of the art of that time period it impacted the theology of Christianity since most “Christians” could not read or write. If anything what is needed is a restoration of the Jewishness of Jesus and Christianity in art.I hope artist who are interested in Christian art would devote themselves to restoring the Jewishness of Christianity.

  • corry

    My understanding is Jesus was Jewish. Never anything else.

    As most of the art we see is/was European we see a Caucasian Jesus. What we should be seeing is a figure more representative of 2000 years ago Arab/Middle-Eastern make up.

  • Julian Clovelly

    “Biblical History” – now there is a contradiction in terms!

    And just how much trouble has this confusion between mythology and history caused? – I dread to imagine.

  • sean kraft

    Shall we spend much time on Jesus’ criticism of scribes and pharisees, or the burdens laid on Hebrews with the Talmuds? Shall we depicting all Hebrews in this light?

    I don’t think depicting Jesus as non-Christian will be read right. That the cross was used in later Christian culture, does not detract from the cross at Christ’s death. It’s a given that it’s looking back, but this does not detract from the event just because it was partly codified later.

    No one is perfect (except Jehovah), hence the wilderness, hence Bablylon, hence Assyria, and other judgments of Hebrews.

    Christianity, nor Europe is responsible for depicting Jesus as a European. Only the leaders who dare to teach the bible are responsible. Like you, and me.

    Please be careful what you are conveying and implying. Otherwise people might think Jesus was Jewish, and have nothing to do with Christianity.

    • Sean Kraft: The term “Christian” as I stated in the article, never appears in the Gospels. How could it? There was no Christianity during Jesus’ life. The first time the word Christian appears is decades after the crucifixion when Paul is preaching in a synagogue in Antioch: “The Disciples Were Called Christians First In Antioch” (Acts of the Apostles 11:26).

      And then “Christian” comes up only twice more in the entire New Testament–but the term Jew or Jews is mentioned 202 times in the New Testament.

      If Jesus wasn’t a Jew, as you suggest, what was he? There was no Christianity and all others in the region were Pagans. Also, if Jesus had stated he that he wasn’t a Jew, the Sanhedrin could not have indicted him or put him on trial. The Sanhedrin only had jurisdiction over Jews.

      • Sonia Willats

        Yes! I grew up in apartheid South Africa. I was really disappointed in Jesus when I first read how he turned people away for healing and ministry if they were non-Jews! This happens at least twice in the gospels, if not three times. It was only when non-Jews displayed huge courage and faith that he agreed to minister to them. Remember his disciples were all Jews too. There is no doubt on that. Remember he said he came to FULFILL the law and not abolish it. Which law? The Jewish law. He said: “Give unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar’s and to G-d that which is G-d’s.” Which G-d? The only one G-d, the G-d of the Jews. He did not preach a new G-d.

        Jesus did not start a new religion. Christianity became a separate religion only around 400 AD.

  • ELaIM

    Well. Nice that children have hobbies.

  • I still believe you left JUDAISM.
    You should change your name to bernardo christophus starrphus and STATE YOU ARE A ROMAN FROM THE CONSTANTINE HERITAGE.
    YOU are as lost and confused as sholomo riskin and schmuely boteach.

    AND I CAN learn from your insane ways how to be prepared to answer you the satan. I dont intend to influence you. I am just letting you know that you are insane,obsessed and lost in your quest to make right an evil sick equally insane man like jesux was.



    • Sonia Willats

      Dacon9. For your pain I am forever sorry. No human can heal it, only G-d.

      I believe that Dr Starr is a Jew who is simply trying to point out to “Christians” that their premise is false BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEPARATED “JESUS” FROM ALL HE WAS AND STOOD FOR and thus FACILITATED THE WICKEDNESS THAT PAINS YOU SO DEEPLY.

      “In fact, the well-documented but often ignored truth is that there was no such thing as Christianity during the life of Jesus. The term “Christian” never appears in the Gospels, while the term “Jew” has 82 mentions. Nor is there any evidence that Jesus envisioned or started a new religion”

        jesux and paul go down as the worst of all mankind. Millions died in the name of jesux and paul. The missionaries today are killing ISRAEL again and again every minute of the day pretending to be JEWISH, thats another story. THE PROPHET OVADIA IN THE NAME OF HASHEM TELLS US THAT THE CHILDREN OF ESAUV,todays xtians are hated by HASHEM. yOU KNOW NOTHING AND YOUR SYMPATHY IS MEANINGLESS.

        You defend that which is evil and havent as yet asked me ”then what would you want”.

        You are supposed to ask not what do I want…
        you are supposed to ask…WHAT DOES G-D WANT THE ONE G-D, THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS…

        YOU VIOLATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU CLAIM TO RESPECT…your roots….you violate even when jeusx was a practicing Jewsbefore he went off the proper JEWISH PATH, you violate the very same laws that he once followed before he again I say…violated the entire TORAH AND was the worst.
        I REMIND YOU THAT THE GREAT RABBIS OF HIS TIME UNTIL TODAY DISMISSED HIM AT THE VERY BEGINING….and no ne remembered him if it wasnt for the ‘conjob’ paul,looking for alms,donations started a new gimmick preaching an falsehood.
        This should mean something that
        Ever since jeuss there has been war and destruction..again thats anopther story..

          that the xtians has done and continue to do.

          Jewish teachings…
          measure for measure
          you,xtianity has decimated JEWS
          arabs now are doing the same to you,xtians.
          ….measure for measure.

          measure for measure comes in many ways
          many times…in natural ways…
          this is only the beginings…

          you will see one day,
          measure for measure against the arabs…

          WANT FROM YOU…..

          • Sonia Willats

            Dacon9. I care so much. I pray and intercede for Israel more than I pray for members of my family who are deeply threatened.

            This is my email address:

            I am sorry, Dacon9.

            Have you read about the Albergensians? I have been told that the Catholic church has killed more non-Jews than Jews. There are many off-shoots of the catholic church, and the general AND WILFULL ignorance of Christians, which is un-repented, is huge.

            I SEE A TIDAL WAVE OF FURTHER PERSECUTION COMING from the non-Jewish counterparts of the Ashkenazi jews discussed by Haim Josef Levi above. What is coming from Obama/Kerry orchestrated in conjunction with Europe is a matter of deep concern.

            Bernard Starr’s message is one to Christians who MAY BE listening (Jews see the contradictions and the missing unleavened bread etc. as he discusses.) I hope his message gets out to the broader Christian world. They need to understand what has been done in the name of “Christ.”

            Know, Dacon9, that I love Israel. I see my children as Jewish. Hebrew has been my home language and I study it. I am a Zionist from my toes to the last hair on my head.

            For offence I have given to you, I am deeply sorry, Dacon9. But know that I love Israel, and do my best to hear the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.